Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Richard R. Peabody
> Peabody and the part he played in alcoholism and AA.
> Thanks for your help.
From: Cheryl F . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/12/2006 2:44:00 PM
Date: Mon Jul 15, 2002 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Sobriety Statement:
When did we start saying it?
Hi Group(s)!
Jim B. is correct, and like many current practices,
it did begin on the West Coast. Reading "How It Works"
also came from the West Coast (cal-i-for-ni-a) when
the group chairs looked around for something to read,
sometime in the 1940s...Before then (and since then,
too), many Groups had their own special preambles,
greetings, lead-off texts (the beginning of Chapter 3
was another), and so on.
_______________________________
More from the moderator:
Sgt. Bill S. SAAA1948@aol.com (SAAA1948 at aol.com)
is an AA oldtimer who got sober in 1948 on Long Island, just outside New
York
City, but also attended AA meetings in a part of Ohio near Akron a couple of
years before that point. He later got to spend a year in Akron talking with
Sister Ignatia every chance he got. He knows oldtime AA on the East Coast,
in
the Akron area, in Texas, and in California.
http://hindsfoot.org/kbs1.html
http://hindsfoot.org/bsv02psy.html
Bill says that the early practice on the East Coast in the New York City
area
was to introduce oneself by saying "My name is X" and then give
your sobriety
date. His memory is that saying "My name is X and I'm an
alcoholic" was
originally more midwestern.
Sgt. Bill, who lives in Sonoma, California, is still very active in AA, and
goes
around speaking to AA conferences and groups, and attending AA get-togethers
(most recently the Gathering of the Eagles in Dallas, and Founders Day in
Akron). He spoke as the keynote speaker at the National Archives Workshop in
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, in 2003, replacing his good friend Searcy, who was
on
his deathbed.
Glenn Chesnut, Moderator
South Bend, Indiana
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++++Message 3483. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Dave B., "Gratitude in Action"
From: Kimball . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/12/2006 7:05:00 PM
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GRATITUDE IN ACTION
The story of Dave B., one of the founders of A.A. in Canada in 1944.
Dave Bancroft b. Jun 25, 1908, Toronto, Canada, d. Dec 9, 1984, Montreal,
Canada. m Dorothy Ford. Sobriety Apr 7, 1944. Founder A.A. Montreal Canada,
1st French members. He sobered up by reading a copy of the Big Book his
sister
sent him. Served as a Class B Trustee from 1962-1964. Dr Dancy, who treated
Dave for alcoholism, went on to become the first Class A (nonalcoholic)
trustee
from Canada, serving from 1965-1974.
Kim
----- Original Message -----
From: Henry
To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:50 AM
Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Dave B., "Gratitude in Action"
I would be grateful if anyone can give me any information on Dave B ,
the writter of "Gratitude in Action" in the fourth edition of the
Big
Book.
Henry
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++++Message 3484. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: When did the term "alcoholism"
first start to be used?
From: Billlwhite@AOL.COM . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 9:13:00 AM
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The term alcoholism was coined by Swedish physician Magnus Huss in 1849.
After detailing the multiple organ systems affected by chronic alcohol
exposure,
Huss noted:
"These symptoms are formed in such a particular way that they form a
disease
group in themselves and thus merit being designated and described as a
definite disease. "It is this group of symptoms which I wish
to designate by
the name
Alcoholismus chronicus."
The reference for this work is: Huss, M. (1849). Alcoholismus
chronicus: Chronisk alcoholisjudkom: Ett bidrag till dyskrasiarnas
känndom.
Stockholm: Bonner/Norstedt.
The term alcoholism showed up occasionally in the Journal of Inebriety
in the late 1800s but did come into widespread professional use until the
early 1900s and did not achieve wide cultural popularity until the
mid-twentieth
century. It is interesting to note that the use of the term is currently in
decline in professional circles and seems to be getting displaced by the
broader term addiction in the culture at large.
Bill White
In a message dated 6/13/2006 12:47:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
hayntra@aol.com writes:
> Subj: [AAHistoryLovers] When did the term "alcoholism" first
start to be
> used?
> Date: 6/13/2006 12:47:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: hayntra@aol.com
> Reply-to: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
> To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent from the Internet
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> Hi history lovers,
> Can anyone help us with the term alcoholism?
> When did this did word first begin to be used
> instead of dypsomania and who coined the term?
> Thanks for you help in this matter.
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++++Message 3485. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: How many people did Bill W
sponsor?
From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 4:19:00 PM
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At 10:41 6/11/2006 , Carl P. wrote:
>Hi history lovers, I am standing in for trixiebellaa
>for a week and our study group have asked, how many
>people did bill w sponsor?
This is not a direct answer but is about Bill W's sponsoring.
Francis Hartigan, in his book "Bill W., A Biography of Alcoholics
Anonymous
Cofounder Bill Wilson," says pp. 191-192, ". . . many a dazzled
newcomer,
after a ten-minute conversation with Bill at an AA meeting, would ask him
to be their sponsor, and invariably, Bill would agree. Soon the newcomers
would find that, compared to other people's sponsors, theirs was hardly
ever available."
So while he may have sponsored a number of people, he was for the most part
unavailable to them, and, by inference, a poor sponsor.
YMMV,
Tommy H in Baton Rouge
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++++Message 3486. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Dave B., "Gratitude in Action"
From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 4:40:00 PM
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At 06:50 6/7/2006 , you wrote:
>I would be grateful if anyone can give me any information on Dave B ,
>the writter of "Gratitude in Action" in the fourth edition of
the Big
>Book.
>
>Henry
Hi Henry.
There used to be a web site that had the authors of the stories in the back
of the Big Book and a brief bio, but I tried to access it just now and get
an error msg. This site was run by an A.A. group in Baltimore. It's url
was
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