Aa history Lovers 2006 moderators Nancy Olson and Glenn F. Chesnut page

confuse it with immigration.)
The first page has AA on the top, and under that

it says "But for the Grace of God. Miracles Do

Happen" then it has "A guide to Living" which

consists of four short sentences.

Beneath that is the Intergroup office address

and telephone number.

The middle two pages consist of "Just for Today"

and the back page is "Yesterday- Today-Tomorrow."

We were not sure of its origin but we thought

it came from Cleveland. I remember our office

manager contacting Cleveland Intergroup and

asking if we "borrowed " it from them. They said

they thought they "borrowed "it from us.
Since it is published by an Intergroup no

permission is needed from General Service to

make it available. Many members carry it in

their wallets and when I first came around

I was told to read a paragraph a day from

this lifesaving can-opener.

I hope others can elaborate further on this

subject.
YIS

Shakey Mike Gwirtz
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++++Message 3967. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Photos of the first 100?

From: Chris Budnick . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/19/2006 12:12:00 AM

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There is an impressive display of early members

in the house next to Dr. Bob's on 855 Ardmore.

That house was purchased and turned into archives.

I have some pictures of the pictures if anyone

is interested.
Chris B.

Raleigh, NC

PLEASE CONTACT CHRIS DIRECTLY AT:

[e-mail]

(cbudnick at nc.rr.com)
WE DON'T HAVE A "FORWARD" BUTTON

ON THE YAHOO GROUP SYSTEM

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++++Message 3968. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: The "Who Me" brochure

From: Mitchell K. . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/18/2006 11:36:00 PM

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I used to have a whole bunch of "Who Me?" pamphlets

printed by Cleveland AA Central Committee in the early

days. I do believe these were green in color.
It is quite often difficult to ascertain where much of

this early literature originated unless there was

local documentation announcing it. AA groups around

the country obtained pamphlets etc. from other groups

or traveling members and in turn, published them as

their own. I had several pamphlets, all the same but

often with different titles and all published by

different AA entities.

"Our Charge," "If God Spoke to AA," and others all

contained a portion of a speech given by Judge John M.

T. in Chicago in the early 1940's. This pamphlet/card

showed up all across the US often with "author

unknown" or anonymous or the name of a well known

local AA member as the person this was taken from. It

all was pretty much the same portion of that early

Chicago address.

________________________________
From: "John Wikelius"

(nov85_gr at graceba.net)

The "Who Me" brochure
I wrote one with the same name this year

2006. Encompasses why the newcomer is so

important to AA.

________________________________

> I would like more information on the decision

> about the "Who Me" brochure since I believe it

> was developed and printed in Birmingham, Alabama,

> by Street Printing Company. Our own local archive

> does not have an original copy but we are

> seeking some locally.

>

> Tim B

> District 6/7 Archive Chairman
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++++Message 3969. . . . . . . . . . . . The "attack" was by Jerome E., not

Barry L.

From: Ernest Kurtz . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/24/2006 6:33:00 AM
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First, I apologize for confusing Barry Leach and

Jerome Ellison in my earlier post. Mel: thanks

for catching that so gently.
Second, as I remember it, I saw the "attack"

piece (also by Ellison rather than Leach) in

manuscript form -- I cannot now recall where it

was published, though I believe it was submitted

to the Saturday Evening Post. Mel, perhaps you

can again be of help here? Your memory is truly

amazing -- far better than my notes or archives.
Thanks again, to all who contribute to our wider

and deeper appreciation of AA's full story.

ernie kurtz
__________________________
pgbunnyca wrote:

>

>

> From: "Ernest Kurtz"

> (kurtzern at umich.edu)

>

> -- not to mention a scathing

> attack on the political conservatism of the AA

> Board of Trustees.

>

> Is this article available online?

>

> Yours in Sobriety,

>

> Peter G.

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++++Message 3970. . . . . . . . . . . . Burnie Smith Talks

From: feelgoodcp . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/24/2006 8:20:00 AM

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I have always been taken by the talks I have

heard on Tape of Burnie Smith. I wanted to ask

if anyone knows were I could aquire his talks

on disk (CD). I asked GSO and their reply was

that they have them but are not sure who owned

the copyright and are working on that.

So if anyone can tell me were I can get any

and all of his talks please drop me a line or

posting. I have some in text but the delivery

means so much.

(feelgoodcp at yahoo.com)

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++++Message 3971. . . . . . . . . . . . 12x12 printing, 1981 or later

From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/26/2006 8:22:00 PM

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I recently p/u a 12x12 on eBay that does not

list a printing number.

The copyrights are 1952, 1953, and 1981 and has

"First Printing, April 1953" right under the

copyright declaration.
The footnote on p. 18 says "In 1990, A.A. is

established in 134 countries."

Does this volume have a printing number and

the publisher forgot to note it?

Tommy H in Baton Rouge
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++++Message 3972. . . . . . . . . . . . Film of Bill W. on the Twelve

Traditions

From: a49585 . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/24/2006 12:56:00 PM
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I heard a tape of Bill Wilson talking about the

12 Traditions, dated 1969.

Towards the end of the tape, he mentioned that

his talk was being filmed. He also stated that

the film was only for AA use.
Does anyone know of such a film, and if so, how

to obtain a copy?

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++++Message 3973. . . . . . . . . . . . Mary Darrah''s "Sister Ignatia"

From: James R . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/30/2006 12:58:00 AM

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I was given a copy of Mary Darrah's biography

of Sister Ignatia for Christmas.

Early on the book mentions that soon after Sr

Ignatia's death there was some thought that

she might be canonized. Does anyone know if

any progress was made in that direction?

Jim C.
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From the moderator:
I have been given to understand that, whenever

the subject of starting the canonization

process for Sister Ignatia is brought up in

Catholic Church circles, the immediate

response is apt to be that Mary Darrah ought

to initiate and oversee the process, as the

one most qualified to do it.
Mary tells me that it takes a whole lot of

money to do all of the extensive research

necessary to carry out that process, and

that she does not have the funds (and I

would suspect probably doesn't have the

time either) to initiate and supervise such

an extremely involved process.
It involves truly massive research into

the candidate's whole background in enormous

detail, and is apt to require a widespread

campaign involving hundreds (if not thousands)

of supporters to get someone canonized as a

saint.
But if there is some group already working

seriously on campaigning for Sister Ignatia's

canonization, a group that I don't know

about, please send us a message.
Glenn Chesnut

South Bend, Indiana

P.S. Not to detract from Sister Ignatia's

extraordinary labors and spiritual power,

we already have an alcoholic saint.
St. Monica (the mother of the great African

church father, St. Augustine) was a childhood

alcoholic, but was able to stop drinking by

turning to the spiritual life. Augustine

tells her story in his "Confessions."
That's St. Monica, as in Santa Monica,

California.

Augustine himself was what we would call

today a sexual addict, who could not stop

his compulsive womanizing until he finally

realized that he had to do the same thing

that his mother had done to deal with her

alcoholism. It worked for his problem too,

which is one of the major themes in his

"Confessions."

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++++Message 3974. . . . . . . . . . . . How to take Akron tour?

From: Rob White . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/24/2006 12:15:00 PM

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We have a small group of AA's from Baltimore that

want to visit Akron in Feb or March 2007.

Any recommendations about who to talk to, what

to see , where to stay, etc...?

It would be nice to get a good plan together

before we leave. Dr. Bob's House, Seiberling

Estate, Mayflower Hotel, Dr Bob's Hospital,

etc.
thanks

Rob W.

Baltimore

410-328-8549
Robert White, University of Maryland,

Baltimore, Department of Psychiatry

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++++Message 3975. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Just for today card

From: ollie_olorenshaw . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/24/2006 6:18:00 AM

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The Just for Today cards are actively used in

AA in Australia.

Best wishes from Australia
Ollie
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> "Can anyone tell me where the just for today cards

> we use in the UK originate from. Also are they used

> in the rest of the world, USA, etc.?"

1: http://www.aabacktobasics.org/James%20H-Videos-Documentary/questionsforjamesh.html

2: http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msandk=Addiction+recovery+programandw1=Addiction

3: http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msandk=Recovery+from+addictionandw1=Addiction+re

4: http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msandk=Addiction+recovery+centerandw1=Addiction+

5: http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msandk=Christian+addiction+recoveryandw1=Addicti

6: http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msandk=Alcoholics+anonymousandw1=Addiction+recov

7: http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/amazon/books/alcohol-abuse/the-lois-wilson-story-when-love-is-not-enough-the-authori-1592853285.html

8: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1568383738/sr=8-1/qid=1152114402/ref=sr_1_1/103-0857880-6268643?ie=UTF8

9: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILSandgrid=andxml=/news/2006/08/26/db2601.xml

10: http://www.aanationalarchivesworkshop.com/NATIONAL%20ARCHIVES%20Schedule%20_2_.pdf

11: http://www.boydsmillspress.com/detail.tpl?command=showpageandisbn=1_59078_067_1andbookid=0633andauthorid=0783andbkcategory=NonfictionandBookTitle=Bill%20W.%20%20A%20Different%20Kind%20of%20Hero%3A%20The%20Story%20of%20Alcoholics%20Anonymous

12: http://library.brown.edu/search/?searchtype=Xandsearcharg=clarence+snyderandsearchscope=7andSORT=Aandextended=0andSUBMIT=Searchandsearchlimits=andsearchorigarg=Xalcohol