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They also have a bulletin board called book sleuth that has readers from around the world. http://forums.abebooks.com/abesleuthcom Maybe that will help. I wish you great success in your quest!! Marsha ______________________________________ Message #3542 from "newnanight1963" Oops this may be a repeat , sorry. I am new to this group and looking for some information. I am looking for a book, an autobiography that my stepdad wrote regarding his 40 years as a skid row wino. Title: One's Too Many and a Thousand's Not Enough Author: Frank Wallaston Year : 1979 Publisher (this may be a vanity publisher not sure) Libra I have managed to find this book in two libraries in Butte County California but can;t seem to be able to find a copy I can buy. I am newly sober (2 months) and know Franks book would add to my incentive in my new journey. Unfortunately Frank died (drunk and alone after 20 years sober) a couple years ago and I lost my copy of the book years ago ... if anyone can help I would be forever grateful. Thanks Tanya
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From: chesbayman56 . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/8/2006 11:31:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Sorry To all for being late with this Monthly Post.... July 1939 - Warren C. joined A.A. Cleveland, caused debate because he was not hospitalized. July 1944 - Bob writes article for Grapevine "On Cultivating Tolerance". July 1962 - 'Victor E' cartoon first appeared in Grapevine. (somes say May 1962). July 1-3, 1960 - 25th Anniversary of AA in Long Beach, CA. July 2-3, 1955 - 20th Anniversary Convention at St. Louis, MO. The Three Legacies, of Recovery, Unity, and Service, turned over to the movement by the old timers. AA comes of Age. July 2, 1960 - Father Ed Dowling dies. July 2, 1965 - "Best of Bill" and Pocket-Sized "12 and 12" 1st sold. July 2, 1965 - 1st "La Vigne", Canadian Grapevine, published. July 2-4, 1965 - 30th Anniversary of AA in Toronto. Adopted "I Am Responsible." July 2, 1993 - 50 years of AA celebrated in Canada. July 2, 2000 - 20 millionth copy of Big Book given to Al-Anon in Minneapolis, MN. July 3-5, 1970 - 35th Anniversary of AA in Miami. "Declaration of Unity". Bill's last public appearance. July 3-6, 1980 - 45th Anniversary of AA in New Orleans. First true marathon meeting was held. July 3-6, 1980 - Gay AA's have own program at 40th AA Anniversary in New Orleans. July 4, 1939 - 1st AA meeting started in Flatbush, NY. July 4-6, 1975 - 40th Anniversary of AA in Denver. Worlds largest coffee server serves 1/2 million cups a day. July 5-7, 1985 - 50th AA Anniversary in Montreal, Canada. Ruth Hock given 5,000,000th Big Book. House of Seagrams flew their flags at half mast for 3 days. July 5-8, 1990 - 55th AA Anniversary in Seattle, WA. Nell Wing given 10,000,000th Big Book. July 7, 1940 - Bill attends 1st Summer Session at School of Alcohol Studies at Yale University. July 8, 1940 - 1st AA Group formed in Dayton, Ohio. July 10, 1941 - Texas newspaper publishes anonymous letter from founding member of Texas AA Group. (Larry J) July 11, 1960 - Time published article called "Passionately Anonymous" on the 25th Convention. July 14, 1939 - Dr Tiebout gives Big Book to Marty M. who promptly throws it back at him. July 15 1938 - 1st documented use name Alcoholics Anonymous, A.A. archives letter Bill to Willard Richardson. July 16, 1965 - Frank Amos, AA Non-Alcoholic Trustee, dies. July 18 1938 - in letter to Dr. Richards at Johns Hopkins, Bill used Alcoholics Anonymous as working title for Big Book and name for the fellowship. July 20, 1941 - First AA group formed in Seattle, Washington. July 22, 1877 - Willian Duncan Silkworth born in Brooklyn, NY. July 22, 1980 - Marty M. early AA woman and founder of NCADD dies. July 23, 1940 - Philly AA's send 10% of kitty to Alcoholic Foundation, sets precedent. July 23, 1943 - New Haven CT Register reports arrival of AA's to study with E M Jellinek. July 24, 1943 - L.A. press reports formation of all-Mexican AA Group. July 28-30, 1950 - First AA International Convention held in Cleveland, Ohio. Twelve Traditions adopted. Dr. Bob made last appearance at large AA gathering. July 31, 1972 - Rollie H dies sober in Washington DC.
DVD?
From: dobbo101 . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/9/2006 6:13:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Can anyone out there help me find where I can get the Joe and Charlie Big Book studies on DVD? I'm told one of them is no longer with us, so any or either will do. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3560. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Gnostics and agnostics From: Bob Wilson . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/8/2006 5:59:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The gnos- root is just the Indo-european root for "to know." Cognate with English know and Russian znat' etc... So "agnostic" just means "not known." The Gnostics have their name from the same Greek root but one doesn't derive from the other. Bob Wilson IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3561. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Inacuracies in the Lois Wilson Book
From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/11/2006 3:11:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Dear Les, Re: "Hello AA History Lover Readers.... Please note that the Bourchert book noted below, "The Lois Wilson Story, When Love Is Not Enough" contains several factual errors." Thank you for your service. One correction though. Page 196 top: "John Henry Fitzhugh Murphy from Cumberstone(emphasis added), Maryland..." The name should be John Henry Fitzhugh Mayo and he is from a town called Cumberstone, Md. Sally M.. who is Jimmy Burwell's niece, remembers Bill and Lois visiting Fitz and Elizabeth Mayo. They lived on her fathers property in a cinderblock house. Fitz was her father's best friend. Elizabeth was ill and Lois would visit and take care of her. One such visit was while Bill was writing the "Big Book." He did not write the book there, but may have written notes on the book. I recently visited the area and gave a 1-1/2 hour presentation (re Jimmy and Fitz) at Christ Episcopal Church in Owensville, Maryland, where Jimmy B. and Fitz M. are buried. Fitz's father was at one time the pastor of the church.
about 200 people attended. (District 6, Area 29, on Saturday 5/13/06 in Owensville,Md.) It was a swell affair and the AA members there treated us all just like family.
of Maryland A.A. and Web Research." His site is the West Baltimore group:
http://www.a-1associates.com/aa/HistoryPage.htm http://www.a-1associates.com/aa/Info.htm http://www.a-1associates.com/aa/Authors.htm Yours in Service, Shakey Mike Gwirtz [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3562. . . . . . . . . . . . "Little Red Riding Hoods" in early AA meetings? From: archie . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/10/2006 11:53:00 PM
Hoods" as used in the text below. It came from the book "Slaying the Dragon" by William L. White on page 135, paragraph 1, lines 20 to 28. There were also tensions regarding the proper relationship between A.A. and the informal club houses that were springing up around the organization. An early report on an A.A. Clubhouse in San Francisco made note of the strain from "over-crowding at meetings" and the problem of "drunks, panhandlers, wolves, and Red Riding Hoods upsetting the meetings." All of these situations reflected A.A.'s growing pains.
A.S.A.P. Always Say A Prayer IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3563. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Gnostics and agnostics From: Arkie Koehl . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/11/2006 4:44:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I gnew that all along :-) Arkie On Jul 8, 2006, at 11:59, Bob Wilson wrote: > The gnos- root is just the Indo-european root for "to know." > Cognate with English know and Russian znat' etc... So "agnostic" > just means "not known." The Gnostics have their name from the same > Greek root but one doesn't derive from the other. > > Bob Wilson IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3564. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Significant July Dates in A.A. History
From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/11/2006 4:07:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII At 22:31 7/8/2006 , chesbayman56 wrote: >July 1962 - 'Victor E' cartoon first appeared in Grapevine. (somes say May
1962).< I did a search on A.A. Grapevine's digital archives for "1962 Victor E" and
the first cartoon shown was the September issue, Volume 19, Issue 4. There were also cartoons for the October, November, and December issues from 1962. A search for "Victor E" without a date yields as the September 1962 issue as first cartoon of Victor. These archives are a wonderful source. There is a charge but it is minimal compared to the value of what you are able to access. YMMV, Tommy H in Baton Rouge [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3565. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Significant July Dates in A.A. History
From: ckbudnick . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/12/2006 12:55:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Regarding July 7, 1940 - Bill attends 1st Summer Session at School of Alcohol. According to information I found, the Summer School of Alcohol Studies was first held in 1943. http://alcoholstudies.rutgers.edu/education/sadsinfo.html "The School of Alcohol and Drug Studies was founded at Yale University in 1943 as the Summer School of Alcohol Studies and moved to Rutgers University in 1962. E.M. Jellinek, Sc.D., was the school's first director. Howard W. Haggard wrote that the school was undertaken "as an experiment in social education" to make the findings of scientific research applicable to the actual problems of alcohol in the community. The first school had as its main courses of study physiological aspects, alcohol and traffic, personality and constitution, statistics, social measures, legislative control, prevention of alcoholism and treatment of alcoholism. The 2004 School of Alcohol and Drug Studies will be the sixty-first annual session. The director of the school is Gail Gleason Milgram, Ed.D." --- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, "chesbayman56" > > July 7, 1940 - Bill attends 1st Summer Session at School of Alcohol Studies at Yale University. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3566. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Joe and Charlie Big Book studies on DVD?
From: George B . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/12/2006 12:32:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII dobbo101@yahoo.com (dobbo101 at yahoo.com) wrote: "Can anyone out there help me find where I can get the Joe and Charlie Big Book studies on DVD? I'm told one of them is no longer with us, so any or either will do." They can be downloaded here: http://www.xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php?action=fileandid=150 This is not with Joe McQ. Charlie and Joe will be in Chicago this weekend. July 14th thru 16th. ______________________________ From: Jim Burns (khanti1008 at yahoo.com) Joe and Charlie are still doing " The Big Book Comes Alive." Joe number #1 no longer participates due to health reasons. Joe #2 has been an awesome replacement for 10 years. My group is going to a " Big Book Comes Alive" Sept 9th and Sept 10 in Indio, California. Write me off-list at guitarstring1008@yahoo.com (guitarstring1008 at yahoo.com) and I will send you a flyer.
Jim
California ______________________________ From: (kilroy at ceoexpress.com) Here is a web site where you can listen to the entire Big Book Study, and much more. They really help to get me up and running in the beginning. I hope they do the same for you.
4021 Club Philadelphia PA ______________________________ From: (rfuhrman1011 at comcast.net) Joe and Charlie are both living. In fact in the next month or so they will be doing a Big Book study in LA. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3567. . . . . . . . . . . . Chapter called "The Lone Endeavor" in 1st Ed.1st Printing From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/11/2006 12:33:00 PM
arriving home from Europe today, and came across some information that Harry the Wino(my sponsor) sent to me from his archives. It is a list of AA members sober between June 1935 to February 1939 in Akron and New York. This particular list was highlighted with comments from Sybil Corwin and states" Ruth Hock
wrote(the) chapter callrd The lone Endeavor in first edition! Just before book
went to print based on phone calls and letters from Pat from Los Angeles. She
told us so on her last trip to Los Angeles in recent years." THIS IS SIGNIFICANT.This credits a non-alcoholic as writing a chapter in the Big Book. On the back of the list Sybil also writes" Footnote:Aug 16,1984 Pat Cooper landed drunk in Los Angeles April 19,1941-and my brother Tex Adams and I called on him at Johnny Millers sanitarium on or near Alvarado and Olympic Blvd. He did not stay sober. (signed)Sybil Corwin. The chapter was removed from the 2nd printing I believe. This signed and dated notation by Sybil identifies Ruth Hock as a writer in the 1st Big Book. Tex Adams started the 2nd AA group in LA, Ca. called "the Hole in The Wall Group" I'm on the East coast, and am not familiar with the Johnny Miller Sanitarium-Any Info? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3568. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: "Little Red Riding Hoods" in early AA meetings? From: corafinch . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/12/2006 8:58:00 AM
"archie" > > Looking for an explanation of the term "Red Riding > Hoods" as used in the text below. It came from the > book "Slaying the Dragon" by William L. White on > page 135, paragraph 1, lines 20 to 28. > > There were also tensions regarding the proper relationship > between A.A. and the informal club houses that were > springing up around the organization. An early report > on an A.A. Clubhouse in San Francisco made note of the strain > from "over-crowding at meetings" and the problem of "drunks, > panhandlers, wolves, and Red Riding Hoods upsetting the > meetings." All of these situations reflected A.A.'s growing > pains.
> It might be a reference to women whose vulnerability is a little more calcuated than genuine. I have a vague recollection of someone who looks at children's stories through a psychoanalytic lens remarking on the oddity of the setup in Red Riding Hood. Who would send a lone, small child into wolf-infested woods? Either her mother exposed her to danger deliberately, or RRH is not as innocent as she appears.
_________________________________ Note from Glenn C. (moderator): Cora, this was Eric Berne, in his book "What Do You Say After You Say Hello?" It's a brilliant book. He argues that fairy tales and other childhood literary motifs often offer good metaphors for describing the psychological games that adults play, and the "life scripts" (an idea that he developed) which shape the course of our lives.
Prince" all their lives, taking a real disability which they have, but using it as a phony excuse for avoiding responsibility in all sorts of other areas where it is not relevant. Alcoholics sometimes play this game with their alcoholism. In parts of this book, and also in parts of Berne's "Games People Play," he describes women who play "vulnerable" and "helpless," as you describe, while simultaneously pretending to show sexual availability in a flirtatious manner, in order to manipulate men into doing the things they want. In the context of Bill W.'s remarks, I suspect that a "Little Red Riding Hood" was a woman who came into AA meetings talking about all the "big bad wolves" who had abused her, and batting her eyelashes at one of the men in the meeting, in an attempt to convince him that he was "a bold woodsman" who would step in and play hero and "save her" from all the big bad wolves.
enough to fall for that con game, to enable a Little Red Riding Hood to get into numerous sick relationships within AA. It was Eric Berne, as far as I can tell, who basically developed the idea of "rescuing" and "enabling" behavior as a kind of psychological con game which some people play, and he pointed out that alcoholics in particular are experts at playing that particular psychological con game. So a "Little Red Riding Hood" is a woman who is looking for a man who will play Rescuer and Enabler, in the way in which Bill W. seems to have been using the metaphor.
based on Berne's original ideas about Persecutor-Victim-Rescuer con games, which came along a decade or so later. I think Berne's original language is much more precise and much more useful than the somewhat amorphous concept of codependency, which attempts to include far too many different kinds of psychological game playing. But that's just me. Tom P. (below) talks about the flip side of the Little Red Riding Hood game, namely men who try to chat up women newcomers to AA, and convince them that they are the big bold heroic woodsmen who will "protect" them from the wolves and "carry their basket of goodies for them."
_________________________________ From: "Tom P." (tomper99@yahoo.com) Archie: From message 50 on this site and a tape of Bill W. talk in Chicago in 1951:
respectable alcoholics of that time shook their heads and said, "Surely these immoral people are going to render us asunder." Little Red Riding Hood and the bad wolves began to abound. Ah, yes, could our society last?"
others would cause the end of AA. I like James Thurber's rendition of "Little Red Riding Hood" where she recognizes the Big Bad Wolf in Grandma's bed and takes her automatic out of her basket and shoots him dead. Moral of the story: "It is not so easy to fool little girls nowadays as it used to be."
Wilson Book From: kilroy@ceoexpress.com> . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/12/2006 12:21:00 AM
don't
think I am, Sally M. is the sister of Fitz M. not Jimmy B. I went to that workshop at the church about 6 or 7 years ago and she told the story. Kilroy W. 4021 Club Philadelphia PA
To: elsietwo@msn.com Cc: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: Inacuracies in the Lois Wilson Book Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:11:57 EDT
that the Bourchert book noted below, "The Lois Wilson Story, When Love Is Not Enough" contains several factual errors." Thank you for your service. One correction though. Page 196 top: "John Henry Fitzhugh Murphy from Cumberstone(emphasis added), Maryland..." The name should be John Henry Fitzhugh Mayo and he is from a town called Cumberstone, Md. Sally M.. who is Jimmy Burwell's niece, remembers Bill and Lois visiting Fitz and Elizabeth Mayo. They lived on her fathers property in a cinderblock house. Fitz was her father's best friend. Elizabeth was ill and Lois would visit and take care of her. One such visit was while Bill was writing the "Big Book." He did not write the book there, but may have written notes on the book. I recently visited the area and gave a 1-1/2 hour presentation (re Jimmy and Fitz) at Christ Episcopal Church in Owensville, Maryland, where Jimmy B. and Fitz M. are buried. Fitz's father was at one time the pastor of the church.
about 200 people attended. (District 6, Area 29, on Saturday 5/13/06 in Owensville,Md.) It was a swell affair and the AA members there treated us all just like family.
of Maryland A.A. and Web Research." His site is the West Baltimore group:
http://www.a-1associates.com/aa/HistoryPage.htm http://www.a-1associates.com/aa/Info.htm http://www.a-1associates.com/aa/Authors.htm Yours in Service, Shakey Mike Gwirtz [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links _____________________________________________________________ A Member of CEOExpressSelect - www.ceoexpress.com IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3570. . . . . . . . . . . . Canada AA From: Paul . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/12/2006 5:46:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII July 2, 1993 - 50 years of AA celebrated in Canada. July 2-4, 1965 - 30th Anniversary of AA in Toronto. Adopted "I Am Responsible." July 5-7, 1985 - 50th AA Anniversary in Montreal, Canada. Using the dates from this wonderful group I thought that Canada and the USA used the same starting dates for AA. Now I see that they celebrated 50 years of AA in 1993 making their AA date 1943. Now if this is the case then why do we have AA anniversaries in Canada celebrating 1935?
From: lynnaw1979 . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/13/2006 10:11:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Looking for information on cross-talk within the AA meeting context. How did we come up with it? When? How? Thanks IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3572. . . . . . . . . . . . 90 meetings in 90 days From: anders bystrom . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/12/2006 10:03:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Hiya group! The saying "90 meetings in 90 days" is pretty common in AA in Sweden. I recall that i once heard on a speaker tape that this saying was "invented" Cleaveland AA in the 50’s where they had some sort of "contract" with the Salvation army, that if they took drunks to 90 meetings the Salvation army would let the person stay at the shelter for 90 days.
Anders
++++Message 3573. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Ebby, Court and Judge Graves From: Mel Barger . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/13/2006 7:41:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Hi Chris, Thanks for your email to the group about Judge Graves. Yes, he was the same judge who released Ebby to Rowland. Apparently Cebra and his father (the judge) had a stormy relationship at times, but it does appear that Judge Graves wanted to help alcoholics and did give Ebby a break. Cebra eventually moved to France. Mel FROM Mel Barger at melb@accesstoledo.com (melb at accesstoledo.com) ----- Original Message ----- From: "ckbudnick" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Ebby, Court and Judge Graves
> Sponsored Bill W. by Mel B. The book indicates that Ebby appeared > before Cebra's father, Judge Graves, and was told that he "was due > back in Bennington for trial Monday morning" (p. 57). Was Judge > Graves the same judge on Monday who "gave Ebby a lecture" and then
> released him to Rowland? I've searched through previous posts and > haven't found an answer to this question. > > Chris
> Raleigh, NC IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3574. . . . . . . . . . . . Searcy W. on the Rewards of Recovery From: robin_foote . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/12/2006 11:16:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Hi AA history lovers, I recently heard the following on a track recorded by Searcy W. I have heard various forms of this over the years and find it follows on from the 'promises'.
fears.
obsession.
located in Iceland with over 800 tracks including AA Founders. Perfect for my iPod.
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