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both practice the Traditions and be a guardian of the Traditions as well. The 1976 Conference Advisory Action which expanded the provisions of Article 3 of the Permanent Conference Charter, makes any proposed change to the Steps, Traditions and Warranties a virtual impossibility even so much as adding or removing a comma.
Arthur
From: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of man_dred Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:23 PM To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] What are the Warranties?
Twelve Concepts for World Service which are printed as part of the AA Service Manual. I'm counting seven of them instead of six. Someone please let me know if I've got this wrong!
Conference shall observe the spirit of the A.A. Tradition, taking great care that the Conference never becomes the seat of perilous wealth or power; [2] that sufficient operating funds, plus an ample reserve, be its prudent financial principle; [3] that none of the Conference Members shall ever be placed in a position of unqualified authority over any of the others;
discussion vote, and, whenever possible, by substantial unanimity;
punitive or an incitement to public controversy; [6] that though the Conference may act for the service of Alcoholics Anonymous, it shall never perform any acts of government;
Anonymous which it serves, the Conference itself will always remain democratic in thought and action.
Yahoo! Groups Links IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3816. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: What are the Warranties? From: timderan . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/29/2006 12:49:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The short form of the 12 Concepts are also contained in the back of the Fourth Edition of the Big Book, on pages 574-575.
History
From: chesbayman56 . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/1/2006 9:22:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Nov 1934 - Ebby T. carries message to Bill. Nov 1936 - Fitz M leaves Towns Hospital to become 'AA #3 in NY', with Bill W and Hank P. Nov 1937 - Bill and Dr. Bob compare notes in Akron. Count forty cases staying sober. Meeting of the Akron Group to consider Bill's ideas for how to expand the movement ... a book, AA hospitals, paid missionaries. Passed by a majority of 2. Nov/Dec 1939 - Akron group withdrawals from association with Oxford Group. Meetings moved from T Henry and Clarence Williams to Dr Bob and other members homes. Nov 1941 - "First Mass AA Meeting" in Oklahoma City, 8 present, 1 was drunk. Nov 1945 - Bill's article called 'Those Goof Balls' published in Grapevine. Nov 1986 - Big Book published in paperback. Nov 1, 1947 - 1st AA Group in Anchorage, Alaska. Nov 1, 1963 - Reverend Sam Shoemaker dies. Nov 3, 2001 - J P Miller who wrote screenplay for "The Days of Wine and Roses" died. Nov 9, 1966 - President Johnson appoints Marty M to the 1st National Advisory Committee on Alcoholism. Nov 10, 1940 - 1st AA group formed in Minneapolis. Nov 10, 2001 - 1st of 400,000 4th Edition Big Books arrives in the mail. Nov 11, 1934 - Armistice Day; Bill started drinking after dry spell, beginning of Bill's last drunk. Nov 12, 1940 - 1st AA meeting is held in Boston. Nov 13, 1939 - Bill wants to go to work at Towns Hsp, NY drunks want him to stay on as head of the movement. Nov 14, 1940 - Alcoholic Foundation publishes 1st AA Bulletin. Nov 15, 1949 - Bill W suggests that groups devote Thanksgiving week to dicussions of the 12 Traditions. Nov 16, 1950 - Dr. Bob died. Nov 18, 1946 - 1st Dublin Ireland group met. Nov 21, 1939 - AA's in San Francisco hold 1st California AA meeting in the Clift Hotel. Nov 21, 1952 - Willard Richardson, past Treasurer/Chairman of Alcoholic Foundation, dies. Nov 26, 1895 - Bill W born in East Dorsett, VT. Nov 26, 1939 - Dilworth Lupton gave sermon "Mr. X and Alcoholics Anonymous". Became one of first pamphlets on AA. Nov 28, 1939 - Hank P writes Bill advocating autonomy for all AA groups.
Nov 28, 1943 - Bill guest speaker San Quentin Penitentiary. (sometimes dated Dec 2, 1943) IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3818. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Re: City Sequence of AA Growth From: James Blair . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/29/2006 12:37:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Glen wrote: To the best of my knowledge, there is at present no list of this sort for the entire U.S. and Canada which would take us down to 1945 and afterwards. You could generate a list by using the directories which date back to 1945 or 1946. I have a complete 1947 which indicates 1650 groups. Massive job to generate a list. Jim IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3819. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: City Sequence of AA Growth From: ny-aa@att.net . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/29/2006 10:13:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The path of propagation of Alcoholics Anonymous such as Glenn has developed can be quite interesting. Sometimes it was a deliberate effort by a few individuals and other times it "just growed like Topsy." Another thing that interests me is the availability of A.A. as a factor in its growth. We say that "Alcoholics Anonymous is available everywhere" but, until it started in Seattle or Dallas or Orlando, it was not available in Seattle or Dallas or Orlando. Only a few alcoholics are going to "get" the program with a mail-ordered copy of the Big Book.
"Big Bang" event that distributed little colonies of A.A. around the United States in a very short interval.
From: Dennis . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/29/2006 1:59:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Re: Ernie Kurtz' question: I remembered that Box 4-5-9 had some early references to AA online and searched through my own collection and found these references:
of [Computer] Age" This article has a general focus on computers but talks about how AA's are meeting on bulletin boards and references an Oct. 1986 Grapevine article about how a member carried the message via a non-AA bulletin board to a still-suffering alcoholic. Ends on a hopeful note recognizing how computer applications will evolve and be increasingly useful and helpful in our AA work.
Computer Meetings Available from G.S.O." This article raises the question about whether these bulletin board meetings can fulfill the definition of an AA group as then described by the Conference group conscience. It then goes on to describe how these on-line meetings, particularly the Q-Link BBS, operate and offers that GSO has compiled a separate listing of "on-line groups" just as it has for ham radio and CB operators. April-May 1993 (Vol. 39, No. 2) - "Update: A.A.'s Log On Electronic Meetings In Growing Numbers" Provides an update on bulletin-board meetings and how they are helping members stay sober and how the message is being carried on-line. Again offers that GSO has an Electronic Meeting Directory. I realize that this doesn't directly answer Ernie's question about the earliest AA group online but it does provide some useful background. I recall talking with Frank M., GSO Archivist in the mid-'90's about early online history and shared the early online Lamplighter group history with him. He was very interested in trying to keep a historical record of AA online but recognized the difficulty of the limitations of the geographical conference structure that GSO's operate within. It certainly would be wonderful if there was searchable access to past Box -4-5-9 publications. Anyway, I hope this is helpful. Dennis Mardon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3821. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Significant November dates in AA History
From: ckbudnick . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/31/2006 2:06:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Significant Dates in AA History for November states: "Nov 1936 - Fitz M leaves Towns Hospital to become 'AA #3 in NY,' with Bill W and Hank P." Is this accurate? The following web site indicates that Fitz got sober in October 1935.
November) of the previous year, that is, October 1935: http://www.a-1associates.com/aa/Authors.htm#Our%20Southern%20Friend It would seem unlikely that it took well over a year after Bill returned from Akron to get the third New York member.
Raleigh, NC ______________________________
Bill's second or third success at 12th stepping after he returned from Akron in 1935. The first was Hank Parkhurst ("The Unbeliever" in the 1st edition), and the second probably William Ruddell, "A Business Man's Recovery" in the 1st edition.) IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3822. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Online and web-paged groups From: Doug B. . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/1/2006 3:57:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I was in an online group called Solutions that started on AOL on July 4th, 1996 at 12:06AM when the first chatroom for the group began.
group became stagnant in 2001. We shared via email and had quite a few members that got sober first in this group and later joined face to face groups in their own cities. We even kept a map of the USA of where all of our members were from. http://www.aahistory.com/solutions.html http://www.aahistory.com/sol/join.html Doug B. Riverside, CA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ t wrote: > In about 1996 or so I put up a schedule for the > Show Me group in Denton, Texas. It was just one page > with the schedule and 'how to find us' info. I had > links to it from an AA history site I had up at the > time. I didn't have links back to my site on that > individual page, but the viewers could easily use the > BACK button on their browser unless they went there > directly from a saved bookmark. > > Several other groups already had sites up, with > schedules and basic AA info by then. My experience at > the time was that most of them were put up by > individual members rather than by groups themselves. > I brought my own up at a group conscience meeting > [after it was already up], and the basic reaction > was 'go ahead' with no real discussion. At that time, > few at my local group had been exposed to computers > and the internet. > > As some of those sites began to introduce more > information [some from GSO and some from other sources], > along with personal experiences/opinions ... well > then some were discussed at the group conscience and > 'talked to'. > > Some members and groups had problems with their > schedules being on the Free sites [Geocities for one] > that pasted random ads on the pages. > > The person who began posting my homegroups schedule > after I quit ... well he was 'talked to' about having > it branch off of, and link back to, his daughters > Brittney Spears pages. Later he was again 'talked to' > about anonymity, when he started posting announcements > and snippets from our business and group conscience > meetings along with the group's phone list. > > __________________________________ > > Ernest Kurtz wrote: > > "As I continue to sort through the early history of > AAs online and online AA, I have come across the > claim that 'the West Baltimore group [was] the first > home group with a page on the internet. We went up > on June 26, 1994.' Any challengers out there? And > if Al's claim is accurate, who was second? And when? > And, perhaps, why?" > >
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publication by the AA Grapevine commemorating the 25th anniversary of Alcoholics Anonymous)"
Unchanging Friend" From: Bent Christensen . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/1/2006 2:34:00 PM
in The Akron Reading List, but we have some trouble finding "The Unchanging Friend."
or if it is on the Internet? In Message 1927 Glenn mentions that he tries very hard to find a copy of it; but I haven't been able to find a message mention any success :-)
Bent
_________________________________ From Glenn Chesnut: http://hindsfoot.org/archives.html has a copy of the Akron Reading List (down around the middle of the webpage). The list gives, as one of its recommended readings for AA newcomers, "The Unchanging Friend, a series (Bruce Publishing Co., Milwaukee)." Mel B. and I both tried to find copies of this but were unsuccessful. Mel B. says that the publisher is now out of business (so we cannot check there). Mel said it seemed to be a Roman Catholic press.
suggests that it could perhaps have been a periodical (like the Upper Room) or a series of little booklets or pamphlets. Neither Mel nor I have been able to find out anything beyond this. We would like to join with Bent in asking for help from anyone who has specific information about where copies of "The Unchanging Friend" can be located.
beginning of meetings From: gtwaldron . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/31/2006 1:04:00 PM
direction as to the origin of the custom (at least for some groups) of reading "How It Works" at the beginning of meetings. 2nd question: I recently heard a story of a recovered brother sending a Big Book to a non-alcoholic sister who helped organize a meeting in LA. Does anyone know anything about this story? Any help would be appreciated. Best, Greg
++++Message 3826. . . . . . . . . . . . Required reading of the Preamble From: earlynomad . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/30/2006 3:37:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Is it required that the Preamble be read at every sanctioned group, and if so, is there only one version that can be read at the group?
preamble and I am against it. I would like to know if there is something according to AAWS that the wording of the preamble must be of a particular nature.
01/16/2006 IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3827. . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Silkworth and drug addicts: which drugs?
From: Des . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/31/2006 5:31:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Dr Silkworth specialised in alcoholism and drug addiction. Are there any records to indicate what kinds of drugs the people of that day were addicted to?
of drug addictions he was treating?
treating people who experienced a combined problem of drug addiction and alcoholism?
From: Jeff Your . . . . . . . . . . . . 10/30/2006 11:36:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII A careful study of People in AA History will give you a good idea how the tree branches grew, first from Akron, then Cleveland and NYC, etc.--
FL AA by reading about Roy Y. - Army sergeant, 1st Texan to get sober and stay sober, contacted by Larry J., later stationed in Tampa, started 1st groups on Florida's west coast. (A 24) (D 259) (P 156)
went to Houston Texas; help start Texas A.A., wrote series of 6 article Houston Press which became AA's first pamphlet "AA". (A 24) (B 295) (D 259) (L 141) All of these entries have good documentation - referencing pages in: (A) ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS COMES OF AGE (AA) (B) BILL W. by Robert Thomsen (C) CHILDREN OF THE HEALER by Bob Smith and Sue Smith Windows as told to P. Christine Brewer (D) DR. BOB AND THE GOOD OLD TIMERS (AA) (E) A.A. EVERYWHERE ANYWHERE (AA) (G) GRATEFUL TO HAVE BEEN THERE by Nell Wing (H) THE LANGUAGE OF THE HEART (AA) (L) LOIS REMEMBERS by Lois Wilson (N) NOT-GOD by Ernest Kurtz (P) PASS IT ON (AA) (S) SISTER IGNATIA by Mary C. Darrah (MS) Service Manual (AA) (? year/edition) (W) A.A., THE WAY IT BEGAN by Bill Pittman (BB)* BIG BOOK of ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, (AA)
-- In grateful service, Jeffrey A. Your 216.691.0917 home Delegate Elect 216.397.4244 work Area 54, Panel 57 216.397.1803 fax Northeast Ohio General Service 216.496.7594 cell [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3829. . . . . . . . . . . . City to City Diffusion of AA From: jlobdell54 . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/2/2006 10:58:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII There will be a panel discussion on this topic at the Fourth Multi- District History and Archives Gathering in the Harrisburg (PA) area on June 16, 2007. It was suggested as a major topic in the proposition for a new History of AA presented to the GSB in 1997 (and turned down) and was discussed at the 2006 H and A Gathering. Besides the moderator's work in Indiana, and the recent connections mentioned for Houston and Tampa, there has been work done in Eastern PA, where I live, NJ, Maryland, Virginia, Ohio (of course), and certainly in other areas. But huge amounts of work need to be done. Why has Joe F., a NJ insurance man, been given credit as a major founder in Vermont? We know that Bayard B, a Philadelphia founder, was founder on Martha's Vineyard. Salesmen out of Phila named George L. founded in Reading PA, Lebanon PA, and Scranton PA around the same time -- but they were three different George L's. Irv from Cleveland and Fitz M were major travelling founders, Irv as travelling salesman, Fitz as evangelist. Yev G was a founder in Bethlehem PA and Granden City NY. Rollie H was the "baseball founder" -- as a travelling journeyman catcher. I'd like to be in touch with anyone doing work in the area. Thanks much.
From: Bruce C. . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/2/2006 11:36:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII From Bruce C., Jim S., and Shakey Mike: the 4th printing was in 1979. ---- Hi All I have a fourth printing of the AA Today that was printed in 1979. The following is from the copyright page.
in Long Beach, Calif., where AA Today went on sale, advance orders to the Grapevine dictated a second printing. By the end of 1964 the last copy of the third printing had been sold, and AA Today became unavailable. Since then, many members have suggested that the Grapevine Yüklə 13,83 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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