Babaji's spiritual discourse : new delhi

humme mann ki
vichar > dhara badlni hogi... Hum bahari puja kartein hain mandir jaate hain
> matha tekte hain, diya jalate hain, ghanta bajate hain , prashad
lete > hain > aur samjhte hain ki humare karmo ko hisaab ho gaya hai..hum nadi
sarovar mein jaake dubkiyan lagate hain aur samjhtein hain ki humare karma > kat jayenge.. lekin aise kuch nahin haasil hona hai.. har cheez ka
ek symbolic matlab hota hai jisse hum manushiya apni suvidha ke liye kuch bhi matlab de dete hain.. Waise bhi hum manushya ki humesha se aadat rahi hai ki har kaam ke liye ek shortcut dhoond lena... aage samjhate hue
kehte hain ki kaise chahe mandir ho ya masjid ho ya church ho sab
jagah > jyot jalayi jaati hai.. ghante bajaye jaate hain.. iska kya matlab hain.. woh bahar ki jyoti ke jalne ka yeh matlab nahi hota ki humare andhar > ki jyoti bhi jal gayi hai.. humme woh andhar ki jyoti ki jalana
hai...> woh bahar ke ghante bhajte hain lekin humme apne andar ke ghante bajane > hain... Hum nadi sarovar hmein dubkiyan lagate hain yeh soche ki
apne karmo ki saafai kar rahe hain.. lekin iska bhi sybolical matlab
hai..> yeh nadi sarovar banaye huye the ki jab manushya kahin se thaka-hara aata > hai toh woh yahan inn nadi sarovar mein snan karke saaf karke khud ko > apne andar se jaag ke phir uss mandir mein jaake poori jagrata mein baithe.. wahan usse neend nahi aaye.. lekin hum manushya ne humesha ke > tarah shortcut dhoond ke har cheez ko ek matlab de diya hai khud ki
> sahuliyat(convinience) ke liye.."
>
> " Attachment cause detachment"
>
> " Ek school ka bachaa jaisa hota hain.. jo savare uthkar school mein jaata hain phir wapis aake kuch der homework karta hain.. phir
khelta hain .. aata hai wapis nahata hain khata hain peeta hai aur phir so
> jaata > hai... samjhate hue kehte hain ki humara jo mann hai agar hum usse
> bhi > aise hi busy rakhe toh woh kuch bura karne ka sochega hi nahi.. toh
> it is very importantki hum apne mann ko kuch bhi sahi karm mein busy > rakhe taki yeh galat aur(direction mein) bhatak nahi jaaye"
" Ek ladki ko jab uske mata-pita samjhate hain ki humme bhulne ki
> koshish karo kyunki tumhe ek din shaadi karnahai kisi dusre ghar
> jaana hai > toh woh ladki kehti hai ki nahi hoga uska jawab na hi hota hain. lekin > ek din jab uski shaadi hoti hain woh hghar jaati hain shurur shuru
mein > kuch samay usse thoda yaad aata hai ghar baad mein jaise woh naya
ghar > hi uska ghar ban jaata hain.. aisa kaise hota hai? Jab woh iss naye > ghar mein aati hai woh naye rishton ko positively leti hai aur apni ummedein kuch kam kardeti hai.. aur usse sab uske expectations se
> zaydaa milta hai toh woh khushi se rehti hai.. issi tarah samjhate hai ki
> jab hum > us parmarth ke saath ek naya rishta shuru karte hain toh hummein bhi aise hi unpar poora bharosa hona chaiye aur humme positive rehna chaiye > aur kam se kam umeedein baandhni chaiye unse aur sab jo humme milega
> uski khushi hum mehsoos kar sakenge aur iss dunaye-mayavi ghar ko dheere > dheere bhool jayenge"

" Sant mahatma humse jo bhi kehte hai woh iss duniya ki kahavaton se opposite hi hota hai... Duniya kehti hai ki aankhein kholo aur

dekho..Sant mahtma kehte hain ki ankehin bandh karo toh andhar
dikhaye dega...> duniya kehti hai kaan khol ke suno.. Sant mahatma samjhake kehte hain ki > kaan bhi bandh kardo aur andhar woh dhun sunayee degi... duniya kehti hai jeena seekho.. aur sant mahatma kehte hai ki marna seekho.. qurbaan > karna seekho yeh worldly pleasures... learn to detach oneself from this > world... "

" Iss zindagi mein koi cheez muft nahi milti hai... har ek cheez

ka har ek humari action ka humme hisaab dena padta hai... kehte hai kihumare paas dil to ek hai lekin issmein hum lakhon tamahaye rakhte hain.. humme iss baat ko sochna chaiye ki kuch bhi muft nahi milta aur jitni tamanaye uske liye utne hi karm karne pad sakte hain aur har cheez ka > hisaab dena padega.."

" Hum apne bache se bahut prem karte hain.. woh jab bhi jo mangta hai hum usse dilane ki koshish karte hain.. hum uske liye sochte hain aur jitna ho sakta hai ache se achaa uske liye karte hai.. iss chakar mein kabhi agar humara bachaa bigad jata hai toh usse humme hi sudharna padta hai.. sahi marg pe humme hi lana padta hai chahe daant ke, maarke yasamjhake.. jis bhi tareeke se lekin hum zaroor usse sahi marg pe late

hain. ussi tarah/ humare hi bachee ke samana hai humara mann.. hum isse > duniya ki sab cheezo se behlaye rakhte hain.. lekin agar yeh kabhi
marg > se bhatak jaaye toh isse bhi sahi raaste pe lane ka kaam humara hi
hai...">
" Hum hathon ki lakeeren dekhte hain, janam kundliyan dekhte hain ,
milate hain.. bura samay rahu kaal dhoonte hai... lekin woh samjhate
hain > .. koi samay bura nahi hota hai.. sab cheezein unhone ne hi banayi
hai.. woh samay , humme yaha tak ki humare saath kab kya hona hai
yeh > bhi > unhone ne hi teh kiya hai.. bhala kaisa woh maalik galat ho sakta
> hai.. > Agar kuch galat hai toh woh humare karm hai jiske karan hum itna
> bhugate hain... unki banayi koi cheez kabhi bhi buri nahi ho
sakti.."

" Have we ever reflected what we want from this life? What we expect

from this life? We have to have a logical approach towards our life.
In different stages /phases of our life we have different objectives
and expectations. When we were young our objective was to do well in
school and attain marks. When we grow up our aim was to get a job, get into relationships. But is this our objective really?? Or is there
something > deeper than this.Basically whatever objectives we have had, is to obtain > peace of mind and happiness. So through them yes we do obtain peace of mind. But these are just means through which we get Happiness and Peace of mind, it's not an end.. Yes, money is important to live, and
Position is also very important in our life. But only having Money
won't make u happier. If that were the case, then all the Multimillionaires in
this world would be Happy people. Just by having
> Position too won't give you peace of mind either. If that were the
> case > then > all the dictators , prime Ministers in this world would all have been happy. money and Position are only a section/ part of our life. They are just Means and not ends. Through them we can't achieve Peace of Mind. The heartwill always be on fire. Now we ask how do we achieve Peace of mind? We
have to have a logical solution for this. Whatever we think, whatever
objectives we make acts as a Magnet and we react accordingly. So if
we are thinking about materialistic things then we are naturally drawn
towards> them. Have we ever thought abt Spirituality? Have we ever thought about Salvation? We also need to have a logical approach towards this. To
react to circumstances in our life we have little or no control at
al, we have to work objectively in order to attain what we want..."
" If you are walking on the road and someone abuses you, it is very
easy that you abuse him back, even a 4 year old child can do the
same. so what great are we doing.. It is very difficult to be quiet and
just walk away in this situation.. If there's one fool why should the
other also become one by acting like thefirst one". Why do we need to go down to the other person's level? Then what will be the difference
between the other person and us. By doing this we just degrade our
own character. The thing is that we never reflect about these
things. We all lack planning and research when it comes to only
Spirituality.
When we go to buy a piece of cloth we do so much planning, we check
the cloth , feel its material, look for our choice color, etc etc.
Ironically this is what we need to do in our spiritual life also. We
are just being blindly led by others. We all need to have a logical
Conclusions.
For this we may be required to ask certain questions, get answers
but who has time for all this..Since we all go to attend Satsang, at the
back of our mind there is definetly a need for spirituality.
Therefore the importance of Spirituality..."

" When a Child is in school and is thinking that he should do well

in his examination. Just by him merely thinking will ve of no use at
all. There will be just panic in his mind, He has to work hard towards
achieving this goal. In Life be it our Careers, our relationships,
or anything else two things are really important.. that actually
matters to all aspects in life that is Time & Attention. Without giving 100% of these two things in anything we cannot be successful in whatever we do. Do we give TIME and Attention to our Spiritual Activity(Meditation- bhajan simaran) We all are not willing to give time to Meditation, then how
can we achieve success in Meditation. Just by attending satsangs we
cannot attain salvation. Yes, by coming to satsang we create good Karmas good deeds. We all need to rise above our mind and maya.
Spirituality is > not just this but learning to feel his divine presence 24 hours a day..."

" Today we all fear different things, basically it is the fear of

the unknown that affects most of us.. it is because of our fears this
fear that we tend to compromise on many of our things today. We need to remove this fear to live life in his said terms. For instance, if we
posses> fear of darkness then before entering a dark room , we will for sure be afraid, but if there is a source of light say a torch or any
tohersource that we can make arrangements of before we enter the
room then we dont get that kind of fear.. the fear disappears seeing the light in that room because we make the necessary arrangements before we walk in the dark room. Similarly we need to understand that the divine light is
also within us, at our places of worship we light up candles and diyas,
and ring bells. Have we ever reflected, that these things could have a
Symbolic meaning, Have we ever thought , why every religion has the
Concept of Sound and Light?? Christ said "If thy eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light" Have we ever tried to understand this. No... rather we all make our own meanings and forget the real message
> behind > these. In the Gurbani it's written "Antar jyot nirantar baani"...The
> light is within you, and there's a sound continously ringing within
> us, 24 > hrs non-stop. That sound helps us to create a relation with the
> divine..."

>
" A little child holding his father's finger, while visiting a fair, he is immearsed in the surroundings of the fair, he will enjoy the> surroundings only till his Father is holding his hand. The momentthe

> child> leaves his father's hand, he gets lost in the same beautiful fair
> that> he was enjoying some moments ago... those same attractive
> surroundings> will not at all make him happy now. Until and unless we also realize the presence of the creator we won't be able to enjoy his creation. We all cannot enjoy this creation without acknowledging him... When a Guest> comes at our place and we entertain them , but how would we feel if
> the> guest leaves without ackowledging us.?? We only ask God to fulfill our wishes, but we don't have time for Meditation, we all need to
reflect on our actions..."
>
> " Can wealth give Happiness? Can Position give Happiness ? Can
> Relationships give us Happiness? All this in isolation won't give us
> happiness> at all. Yes, a sum total of this would give us some happiness. But
> human tendancy is that we tend to go to the extremes. Sometimes we
> get so engrossed in relationships, money, etc: so much that we forget
> everything else. We have to keep a balance in our life just like we
> tell a child > to keep a balance between his studies and games. As it is fondly
said > in English, "All work no play makes Jack a dull boy" We all have 24
> hours in a day , which are actually sufficient for us. We all have
to > learn > to use our time logically and efficiently so taht we can make the best use of it and try to maintain that balance in all taht we do..."
>
> " These days knowledge is considered of supreme Importance. It is
> considered taht knowledge helps increase our understanding.
Knowledge is good, but having knowledge only does not imply understanding. By
> applying > Knowledge you get experience and from these experiences (be it good
or bad) we understand, we increase our understandings. Coming to
satsang, reading sant mat books is only knowledge. similarly when we read a Cookery book. We see all different tyoes of recipies.. But just by
looking and reading the recepies we can't satisfy our hunger. We have to follow the procedure specified in the book. Then only our hunger can
get satisfied. Gyan Marg is only a means to reach Bhakti Marg. More
o> Knowledge without any application will only lead to confusion. We
all have a limit in our understanding. When a child is born you don't
start> giving him Solid foods immediately, first we feed the child with
> Liquids,> then Fluids , Pulps and slowly slowly gradually we begin to feed the
> child with Solid foods. The same thing is when we receive Knowledge,
> then the application, then our conciouness then we start opening our
> horizons. We should build our faith only based on experiences.
Therby> meditation is the platform we need to seek that experience, we all need to reflect, how to achieve this experience. and we should understand
> that more > knowledge only leads to confusion and nothing else but applied
> knowledge is what helps increase our understanding"
>
> P.S : The above, are not exact words of Babaji. There may be some
> mistakes in
> them.

BABAJIS SPIRITUAL DISCOURSE --- MUMBAI 6th March 2007

There is a line between Self Realisation and God
Realisation. What is the meaning of Self Realisation.
Self Realisation is a means towards God Realisation. .
Self Realisation is a means to understand thyself, to
control the self. Most of us are in a hurry in this
path, without understanding our Weaknesses and
Strenghts.

We are in a hurry, thinking how would we fulfill our

objectives. First we have to overcome our Weaknesses
and Strenghts. We have to Change our weaknesses to
strenghts. There should be a clear understanding of
thoughts. And then we should work towards our
Objective.

Man has remunance from lower species. All our past

tendencies are animal like. There is a saying too,
when someone behaves badly, we say Behaving like an
Animal. Because we there is this remunance from lower
species . Therefore we are getting animal like
tendencies.

This Human birth is an opportunity for us to polish

ourself. First comes Self realisation and then God
realisation comes at the next step. Have you ever
thought about this word is "human being"? What does
it mean ? It actually means learning to be Human. Once
we learn this then comes the next step.

Now the question, Why Meditation? Why Bhajan Simran?

Because only through Bhajan and simran we can know
ourself. This helps in attaining the objective of Self
realization, and then God realization.

This Moment each one of us has some sort of fears.

When we are alone we have some feeling of
introspection, and we are seeking company. This body
is a vehicle, it will go to places where there are
healers of comfort level.

Understanding of scriptures is essential. Scriptures

could only give you guidance not Knowlegde. The Action
of reading scriptures would give rise to
Conceptualising. These Concepts must be channelised.
Only then would we be able to know what the Reality
is. Through the Action we must have some Experience.
Then only we can say that we have had some sort of
Understanding.

When the Action is taken all illusionary thoughts take

a backseat. Meditation is that Action. Through
Meditation we get Self Realisation.

When a Child has an Exam, the parents cannot study for

the child and give the exam for the child. The child
himself has to study. The parents just could make the
lesson easier, or create an atmosphere for the child.
This is just about Study of Qualifications. But has
anyone thought about the Study of Life? Each person
has to do his own thing. Each person has to sow the
seed and reap the harvest. There is NO LEGACY in this.
At the most a conducive atmosphere for Meditation can
be provided. But no one else can do it for you. We
have to do it ourselves.

We have to stiff the Mind , whereby the inner focus

becomes easier to go through. When Thoughts are
scattered it becomes even difficult threading a
needle. So imagine Meditation.

If we Shake or move our body during Meditation does it

have an effect in our Meditation? Yes it does. The
Mind will create a ripple effect. When we shake a
glass of water after shaking the glass would be still,
but the water will have a ripple effect and usually
takes longer time to settle down. That is why even
BANI says "TAN THIR MANN THIR".

It is a step by step progress. It cannot be obtained

Overnight. We should not be in a hurry. We should go
step by step. Action by action. Control the Body. Then
it would be easy to put the thread through the eye of
the needle, that is we would be able to do our
Meditation.

If we understand this, or have an insight in this,

then we know what is expected. And then it becomes
easier for us to attain our Goal.

When we achieve that Goal, that is Self realization.

It helps us to understand the DIVINE.

Spirituality is feeling the presence of the Divine 24

hrs a Day.

When a small child is alone, he would be always

scared. But when he knows that his Father is next to
his side, then why would he be scared. We must be
engrossed in Do's and Don't's but instead we should
learn the Art of feeling the Presence of the Divine.

Babaji was here in the UK on a surprise visit. He not only gave

darshan but also gave satsang and then followed it up with a good 1
hour Q&A session. He was in trousers and shirt and covered by a coat
as it is really cold out here.

It was a wonderful opportunity to see Him and listen to Him.

Here are some excerpts from his satsang and Q&A session. The wordings
may not be exact as it is only what I remember.

In the satsang Babaji said that we do not know what is the objective

of our life. We take Naam Daan and then forget the very purpose of
getting it. We lose sight of the final objective and do the things
which may not be appropriate. There is something we all are not doing
and because of that we are here in this kind of weather. (sitting here
to listen to the satsang. It was very cold and windy in the tent)

Q&A:
1> What do you mean by Lacto-vegetarian diet? In the food that we get

in the airlines they consider egg to be part of the Lacto-vegetarian
diet.
A> While travelling you should always ask for Hindu/Asian vegetarian
food then there will not be any egg in it. I have been travelling for
so many years and have never found it difficult.

2> Sometimes the doctor prescribes us some medicines that have fish

oil in it. What are we suppose to do?
A> There are always alternatives available and we should let the
doctor know that we do not take anything containing animal products.

3> The alternative medicines will take three times the time to cure

than the one with fish oil.
A> Unless it is the question of life and death we should never take
such medicines. It is for us to decide whether we need to get cured 3
times faster and add 3 times more the karma to our karmic load.

4> One English woman complimented on the armoury that was there in the

mansion reception and wanted to know about it.
A> Babaji replied that He was looking around to see what could look
good in the mansion. Since the mansion has an oldish look He thought
that some statues would look good. When He went around to look for
statues then the only ones He could find was of half-naked women.
Obviously such statues are not appropriate. (The whole sangat was
laughing at this point and Babaji gave a cute smile) He said that then
He decided to have some swords and helmets to decor the reception. He
said that earlier Huzur used to politely say the things which the
others did not follow. Now Babaji says the things and if there are any
differences of opinion He insists to solve this by having a round of
'fight' and settle the scores right then and there. (The whole sangat
was laughing at this point and Babaji gave a cute smile) Because of
this there are no more confrontations and everyone listens :)

5> An old lady: "I have lost my husband and it is very difficult for

me to live, Babaji, can you please help?"
A> Babaji: "I know that is difficult on your part to have lost your
husband after so many years together. But you are seeing this grief
from your side only. It is possible that your husband is happy there
at the feet of the father and there is no grief on that side. Please
be patient and everything will be alright."

6> A young lady: "Babaji I am a seeker and want to know what can I do

how do I meditate and be on the path"
A> Babaji: "Sister your age now is to study and get along with life.
The last thing you want during your exams is an old Baba sitting in
front of you. So please concentrate on your studies now and attend
satsang regularly. Seekers should not meditate unless they have been
initiated otherwise after the actual initiation we will take time to
undo the method that we have been following."

7> A young man: "Babaji, you are the Father of everyone of us here.

Please call me your son."
A> Babaji (smiling): "I am not that old to call you my son. I am still
young" (Laughter in sangat)

7a> The same guy: "But Babaji please call me your son. I am only 24"

A> Babaji: "If you are 24, I am only 14. I may look old but my heart
is still young." (Laughter in sangat). "Brother why do you want to
give 'names' to the relation that you have with the Master. This
'name' to the relation is not going to change anything between you and
the Master so please do not give importance to this."

8> A man: "Babaji I have been getting dreams since my childhood that

Huzur has come and He gave me Naam Daan. I already know the five words
before getting initiated. I see things that are going to happen and
they do happen. This disturbs me a lot, Babaji please help me."
A> Babaji: "Brother, mind is playing games. This could be because of
the past lives and this is the way it is showing. You should not worry
about it and carry on your duty. Just ignore these things and
everything will be alright."

9> A man: "Babaji, I am initiated and I feel that the things that are

happening are all your will. I feel that the decisions I take are
given by you and I am in your will. But sometimes they feel right and
sometimes they are not so right. It is very difficult to predict you
Master, what should I do?"
A> Babaji: "I am getting better at this with my age. Please do not
worry about it." Laughter in sangat)

10> A young lady: "Babaji I want to get initiated and I think that I