Chapter 1 Introduction What are the issues of the day?



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Ripeness

What could congress do to moot this?

What could the president do?

How does this affect ripeness?

What would be the impact of the injunction if issued at this point?

End Result?

What is the court's holding?

Do you think the United States Supreme Court would ever really decide this type of case?

Baker v. Carr, 369 U.S. 186, 217 (1962)

Prominent on the surface of any case held to involve a political question is found a textually demonstrable constitutional commitment of the issue to a coordinate political department; or

a lack of judicially discoverable and manageable standards for resolving it; or the impossibility of deciding without an initial policy determination of a kind clearly for non-judicial discretion; or

the impossibility of a court’s undertaking independent resolution without expressing lack of respect due coordinate branches of government; or an unusual need for unquestioning adherence to a political decision already made; or

the potentiality of embarrassment from multifarious pronouncements by various departments on one question.

Ange v. Bush, 752 F Supp 509 (1990)

What was plaintiff's claim in this case?

What would be the effect on the military if plaintiff prevails?

Why does plaintiff have the same standing problems as Congress?

Will it make any difference to his or Congress' standing once the order to invade is given?

How does Judge Lambert argue that this is a classic political question?

The Problem of Standards for War Powers Cases

Does the constitution clearly prevent the president from using troops to invade other countries?

Has the president done this without a declaration of war since the beginning?

What standard could a court use to decide that a military action is illegal?

Why does being against a law passed by Congress not solve the problem?

What does Judicial Abstention Mean to Separation of Powers?

Who "wins" when the court invokes political question abstention in a war powers case?

Does this shift the balance of powers between the branches of the government?

Is this better than the separation of powers problem posed if the court intervened in a war powers case?

Are the courts right to stay out of war powers cases?

Gilligan v. Morgan, 413 U.S. 1, 6 (1973)

The Kent State Shootings

Who shot whom?

Who did the shooters work for?

What did the lawsuit seek?

What was the separation of powers issue for the court?

The Courts Ruling

Which branch did the court think should be investigating the Guard?

What provision of the constitution did the court base its ruling on?

What outcome was the court avoiding, i.e., what happens if the troopers had been properly ordered to shoot the students?

What about criminal prosecutions under state law?

What would the state have to show for a successful prosecution of the individuals?

What would be necessary to beat a "following orders" defense?

What are the political chances for such a prosecution?

Who was indicted?

In Goldwater v. Carter, 617 F.2d 697 (D.C. Cir. 1979) (en banc), rev’d, 444 U.S. 996 (1979)

How are treaties ratified?

Are the legally effective before they are ratified?

How does the constitution specify that treaties are revoked?

What did Carter propose to do?

What was Goldwater's claim?

Dellums turned on the things congress could still do

Is this case different?

Standing - Northeastern Florida v. Jacksonville, 508 U.S. 656, 663-664 (1993)

What is injury in fact?

Concrete?

Actual, not imminent?

Causal relationship?

Redressability?

Why does a denial of standing not tell us anything about the underlying merits of the case?

Can there be wrongs where no one has standing to sue to correct them?

Zone of Interest?

What is the zone of interest?

Does the plaintiff have to be the one injured?

Qui tam actions?

What can congress modify by statute?

What factors cannot be modified?

Are these the same in the state courts?

Can Congress Change the Court's Behavior?

Why can’t Congress force the court to resolve political question cases?

Can Congress take away the court's jurisdiction over national security cases?

If abstention is the problem, would it matter?

Are there constitutional limits on this?

What are the political limits?

More in the detainee cases

Citizen Standing

Pietsch v. Bush, 755 F. Supp. 62 (E.D.N.Y. 1991)

What was plaintiff's claimed injury in fact?

What did the court say about this?

What about his claim that any citizen should be able to sue to require the government to obey the constitution?

Schlesinger v. Reservists Committee to Stop the War, 418 U.S. 208 (1974)

Why did the plaintiff claim that it was unconstitutional for Congressmen to be National Guard Officers?

What constitutional provision does this violate?

What is the separation of powers problem?

The Ruling

‘‘standing to sue may not be predicated upon an interest of the kind alleged here which is held in common by all members of the public, because of the necessarily abstract nature of the injury all citizens share.’’

Why?

Putting aside the court's ruling, do the plaintiffs have a valid constitutional argument?

What was the problem with their standing?

Could congress do if it wanted to fix this?


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