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21.4Action Points




22MPEG-V Architecture (23005-1)

22.1Topics

22.1.1ISO/IEC 23005-1 2nd edition



22.2Contributions





Number

Session

Title

Source

Dispositions

m24722

MPEG-V

Editor's input on SoCD of 23005-1

Jae Joon Han, Sanghyun Joo

refer 3DG report

















22.3Summary of discussions




22.4Action Points

23Control Information (23005-2)

23.1Topics

23.1.1ISO/IEC 23005-2 2nd edition




23.2Contributions





Session

Number

Title

Source

Dispositions

m24776

MPEG-V

Proposal to modify scent capability and preference types (Part 2)

Jeong-Do Kim, Hyung-Gi Byun, Hae-Ryong Lee, Sanghyun Joo

refer 3DG report


















23.3Summary of discussions




23.4Action Points




24Sensory Information (23005-3)

24.1Topics

24.1.1ISO/IEC 23005-3 2nd edition




24.2Contributions





Number

Session

Title

Source

Dispositions

m24775

MPEG-V

Proposal to modify scent effect (Part 3)

Jeong-Do Kim, Hyung-Gi Byun, Hae-Ryong Lee, Sanghyun Joo

refer 3DG report
































24.3Summary of discussions




24.4Action Points




25Virtual World Object Characteristics (23005-4)

25.1Topics

25.1.1ISO/IEC 23005-4 2nd edition




25.2Contributions





Session

Number

Title

Source

Dispositions

m24777

MPEG-V

A technical background of the make-up avatar usage scenario

Sang-Kyun Kim, Yong Soo Joo, In-Su Jang, Jin-Seo Kim, Soon-Young Kwon

refer 3DG report

m24778

MPEG-V

Proposition of make-up avatar schemes for ISO/IEC 23005-4

Sang-Kyun Kim, Yong Soo Joo, In-Su Jang, Jin-Seo Kim, Soon-Young Kwon

refer 3DG report


















25.3Summary of discussions




25.4Action Points



26Data formats for interaction devices (23005-5)

26.1Topics

26.1.1ISO/IEC 23005-5 2nd edition




26.2Contributions





Number

Session

Title

Source

Dispositions

m24779

MPEG-V

Proposition of spectrum camera sensor schemes for ISO/IEC 23005-5

Sang-Kyun Kim, Yong Soo Joo, In-Su Jang, Jin-Seo Kim, Soon-Young Kwon

refer 3DG report

m25090

MPEG-V

Proposal to modify Scent Command type (Part 5)

Jeong-Do Kim, Hyung-Gi Byun, Hae-Ryong Lee, Chung-Hyun Ahn

refer 3DG report


















26.3Summary of discussions



26.4Action Points


27Common Types and Tools (23005-6)

27.1Topics

27.1.1ISO/IEC 23005-6 2nd edition




27.2Contributions





Session

Number

Title

Source

Dispositions

m24258

MPEG-V

Additional Scents for ISO/IEC 23005 - Part 6

Markus Waltl, Benjamin Rainer, Christian Timmerer

refer 3DG report

m25091

MPEG-V

Proposal to add Intensity Category CS with Scent (Part 6)

Jeong-Do Kim, Hyung-Gi Byun, Hae-Ryong Lee, Ji-Hoon Choi

refer 3DG report


















27.3Summary of discussions



27.4Action Points



28Conformance and reference software (23005-7)

28.1Topics

28.1.1ISO/IEC 23005-7 2nd edition

28.2Contributions





Number

Session

Title

Source

Dispositions

m24259

MPEG-V

Proposed Updates for ISO/IEC 23005-7

Markus Waltl, Christian Timmerer

refer 3DG report


















28.3Summary of discussions




28.4Action Points



29Exploration

29.1Topics

29.1.1New File Format

29.2Contributions





Number

Session

Title

Source

Dispositions

m24970

MMT & FF

Considerations on an Improved File Format

Thomas Stockhammer

noted

m24980

MMT & FF

Exploring a new MPEG file format

David Singer

noted

m25109

MMT & FF

A New File Format and MMT Encapsulation

Sungryeul Rhyu, Kyungmo Stanley Park, Jeayeon Song

noted



29.3Summary of discussions




29.3.1m24970 Considerations on an Improved File Format


Thank you for this nice overview of our existing formats and their strengths and weaknesses. Are we talking ‘file format’ or is it more a packaging/encapsulation – yes, the latter. DASH is an example of a manifest-file-based approach; do we need a manifest? Some discussion of the drawbacks of the ISO BMFF. Should we have bi-directional convertibility, or only forward? Many workflows will want convertibility. The figure shows a real need for self-describing segments, that can carry all the information needed for time, key, overlap, etc. handling. How do you handle piece-to-whole mapping (e.g. time zero in ad 0, ad 1, and the main program), and the availability indicators (how much timeline can be played), and so on?

29.3.2m25109 New File Format and MMT Encapsulation


Thank you for this careful look at the MMT requirements and the ‘clean-up’ opportunities in ISO BMFF.

MMT MPU ≈ Fragment

MMT Asset ≈ Track/Segment

We explored naming/labeling, and the nature of these terms, and concepts, and what they hope to achieve, and the needs to package etc. for long-term and complete storage. MMT is mostly concerned about transport characteristics and presentation description. The MPU concept means that there is at least one random-access point in an MPU, and it has some timing that maps it into a global asset.


29.3.3m24980 Exploring a new MPEG file format


This contribution helped raise a lot of questions, and helped us identify ‘requirements’ as we asked “how does X work?”, and so on. Does this format need a manifest?

There were a number of areas that could use more thought (some detailed below as general questions):



  • we need to handle discontinuities (where either the program is continuous but the sequence numbers and/or timestamps are not, or the program material has gaps); do we need a ‘null’ codec?

  • handling stream splicing in general

  • do we need three orderings (storage, decode, and presentation), to handle layered scalable coding?

  • can we move some of the higher-level indexing etc. into side files?

  • do segments/fragments need better linking (link-back to initialization, or claiming to be part of the same presentation)?

29.3.4Moving ahead


We welcome contributions in the following areas:

  • how does X work, how do you do Y, and how do they compare across formats?

    • manage recording, particularly with discontinuities?

    • manage a simple locally playable file?

    • dynamically add tracks (e.g. new bitrates, languages, etc.)?

    • convert M2TS, MP4 and other existing content;

    • integrate with the W3C MediaSource API?

    • integrate with DASH as a media format under it?

    • how do we handle layered, scalable, multi-view coding etc.?

    • how do we handle the AAC and particularly USAC pre-roll and sync requirements (e.g. is the edit list really the right way to express the timing adjustment)?

    • can we get closer to M2TS latencies, when needed, than the typical MP4 latencies?

  • can we meet the MMT use cases and requirements for encapsulation (or highlight where they need adjustment)?

  • analysis against the old MP4 requirements (1997)?

  • how does this compare to MP2TS, MP4, WebM/Matroska, MXF?

  • what do we need to DO with this? (record, local playback, network playback, DASH integration, MMT integration, FLUTE delivery, etc.)

  • can we extend/profile MP4, rather than invent something new? What is intrinsically ‘wrong’ with MP4? Perhaps we can make some (perhaps non-compatible) MP4 profiles?

  • what robustness requirements do we have (bit/byte/frame/fragment/segment…?)

  • how much better can we make a strawman (either starting from the one presented, or from some new ideas)?

  • in the strawman, how much of the tabular data can be delivered (a) ‘late’ (after the media) or (b) in s side-file or stream?

Options on the table seem to be:

  1. live with what we have, maybe compatibly enhanced; (maybe adding guidelines etc. for various use-cases);

  2. enhance what we have, profile it, maybe have some incompatibility;

  3. invent something new.

By investigating the questions above, and using the strawman as a ‘could be not worse than this’, we need to answer which of these three options we take (in the next meeting).


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