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626 From: Elnora Van Winkle> Date: Thu Jul 20, 2000 2:16am Subject: More on your questions To add to my post about your questions, I want to say I am very much available for any questions from people who are using the self-help measures as described in the article, The Biology of Emotions, either on the list or one to one. I like getting to know all who use the measures and am pleased that we can keep in touch from time to time when you are post flood. This is a growing community of emotionally healthy people, and maybe some day we will all meet for a reunion. I can understand your doubts and concerns and your questions that indicate you are not quite ready to use the self-help, but these questions are best answered by studying the articles and the Archives. I don't have time to repeat the answers to these questions on the list, and if they are questions that debate the theory I cannot answer them unless you are a neuroscientist. Here is the description of this list, which was available to you when you joined: 'An anonymous non-interactive mailing list restricted to persons 18 or older using self-help measures that relieve depression and anxiety permanently in a few months without drugs, and after about a year bring virtually full recovery from emotional disorders and addictions.' It goes on to say these measures are in the articles, and asks you to read the Archives. If you have joined to find out if it works, you may not be ready for this approach, and I cannot be available to debate the theory with you. You are welcome to stay on, and I hope you will soon identify and benefit from this discovery of the biology of emotional illness. Ellie The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://pages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety
http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://pages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety
To recover it is necessary to recognize these excitatory nervous symptoms as signals the brain is trying to release anger and whenever they appear to redirect the underlying anger toward our parents and other past abusers. Rather than suppress the symptoms, feel the fear, recognize it as underlying anger, release and redirect the anger. The pounding in the chest when confronting someone in a current interaction is a sign of repressed anger related to past abusers. This anger can be released by pounding on a bed and yelling at past abusers while picturing them or thinking about them. We are NOT attacking them but the sickness in them. If it would be too noisy to yell out loud, the anger can be redirected by talking quietly to our parents in our mind. Parental voices stay in our heads saying things like, "You should be ashamed of yourself," and saying, "Get out of my head," helps. Other symptoms that signal emerging anger are anxiety, neurotic fear, panic attacks, compulsive thoughts or behavior, mania, paranoia, and resentments. These are all detoxification crises and opportunities to release and redirect anger. Go through the fear and other symptoms to the anger and redirect the anger. It is important to mentally redirect anger as often as possible all through the day. Symptoms might be cravings for stimulants, chemical or psychological. They might be guilt or low self-esteem or suicidal thought; these are caused when anger is turned inward. Symptoms might be misdirected anger, rage, or aggressive behavior toward someone who may be innocent or partially innocent. If anger is intense and out of proportion in a current interaction, much of it is repressed anger from previous trauma and needs to be redirected toward past abusers. It is important not to direct anger toward others in person. If intense anger is triggered in a current interaction, the appropriate anger can be expressed calmly after one has released most of it by pounding on a bed. It is NOT necessary to remember the early trauma in detail. The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://pages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety
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Nothing like having the living breathing evidence right in front of you. As H and I work on our redirecting, we are being visited by her 10 month old granddaughter. As we watch her just beginning to walk and start to make coherent sounds, we realize that the only emotion she expresses is anger -- pure, unalloyed, primeval, innocent anger. There are no other emotions for a baby to express at this age. There is no fear; there is no anxiety, no guilt, no grief, no love, no other emotion outside of anger. She expresses anger and only anger. I never realized that until now. MT I think babies have normal fear, but not the neurotic fear that comes later because of the toxicosis, which is caused by the suppression of anger at an early age. I like to think that a baby has love, love for self, and that expressing anger is a form of love. Expressing anger in confrontation is a tough love, and a way to bring another into recovery. I like to define love as caring about the well being of another, and for babies it would be caring about self--the gift of life within. Ellie The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://pages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety
http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://pages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety
25 Now there went with him great multitudes: and he turned, and said unto them, 26 If any man cometh unto me, and hateth not his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. I'm sure he meant hate the disease in them and in ourselves. Ellie The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://pages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety Attachment 176k (image/jpeg) Co-dependency.jpg 632 From: Elnora Van Winkle> Date: Mon Jul 24, 2000 5:50am Subject: WebOnly Membership You can set your membership to Daily Digest if you are getting too much mail. When you are post flood you may not want to get the daily posts at all and you can set it to Web Only. That way you will get no mail but can read the Archives anytime you wish. To do this go to: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety Ellie 633 From: Elnora Van Winkle> Date: Mon Jul 24, 2000 9:14pm Subject: Anger as an adult Elliek I remember having a rather rough childhood, but my anger really comes from when I was in my 20's and had tons and tons of family problems with my sisters who now hate each other--stuck me in the middle and I was dumb enough to let them; talk about live and learn. Anyway, I have lots of other "adult" anger; is this program appropriate for that or is it mostly about childhood? US It is definitely not about having your anger as an adult in current interactions. Your anger in current situations is probably much more intense than appropriate or you may be turning it inward. It is a mix of anger from the present and very early childhood, even if you don't remember any early childhood trauma. Try writing a brief description of your childhood relationships to give you a list of past abusers, which I'm sure includes one or both parents. Please study the short pamphlet article, and try to understand the simple biology, ie that when you have excitatory nervous symptoms it is your brain trying to detox toxic neurochemicals that store repressed anger. And this anger needs to be released and REDIRECTED to all past abusers as described in the article. Once you understand this, the self-help measures will come naturally to you. You can also take you time and read the Archives to find more ideas about how others used the self-help. But everything you need to know is in that short pamphlet once you understand the biological concept. Let me know how it goes. Ellie The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://homepages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety
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> Lately I feel as though I have a new freedom of choice that I never had before. I can choose to remain unconscious and unaware that I'm acting out of unconscious impulses, or I can chose to act with will and intent, from my conscious mind, and remain in the "neutral witness" stance. It is here, in the calm eye of the storm, where true peace resides. But only if I deny impulse, and intently and willfully and consciously (and peacefully) redirect the anger privately toward more appropriate targets, such as God. >
> I know this good feeling won't last forever; I better enjoy it and work with this knowledge as much as I can while I have the time. YM Hurray for you. I remember reading in the codependency literature that God can take it, and I'm sure of that. I got on my knees once and cursed him out in no uncertain terms, including f...u, and a few days later I was given the information I needed to learn about redirecting at a dysfunctional family program. That God I cursed at was only the punitive God of my understanding, the notion of God my puritanical mother and religions gave me. And if you mean by 'good feeling' a manicky high, you won't want it back when you are post flood. You will have a real good feeling, a euphoria that is freedom from anxiety and distress and which is sustainable. It is the peace that passes all understanding. Ellie The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://homepages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety
> I am clearly a noradrenaline addict. It is evident in my bipolar disorder (during which I "make my own adrenaline"), my caffeine addiction, and the way I used to be addicted to anger and drama and acting out on the Internet bulletin boards, and the way I used to be addicted to anger and rage in my personal life. > > My question is, how is an addiction triggered from the deep anesthesia of surgery? Each time I have had a severe manic episode, I woke up that way out of surgery. My therapist says that her alcoholic patients have the same problem; they have surgery, and then they go off the wagon and end up on a drinking binge. What is it about the deep anesthesia drugs, neurologically speaking, that triggers our addictions? "YM" In the first place, the addiction you have to endogenous noradrenaline and adrenaline is for your healing, and it is an addiction that you can't get away with keeping. I think God is very sneaking to have planned that for addicts to recover they have to get addicted to these endogenous neurochemicals. Everytime you do the redirecting during the detox crises, ie the symptoms, you are reducing the amount of these in your brain. You are periodically withdrawing from this addiction. The anesthesia causes the release of excess noradrenaline and adrenaline, and people get manicky. All drugs, including anesthetics, (also psychological stimulants) are toxic and trigger detox crises. So if you have excess of noradrenaline and adrenaline (which is what makes up the toxicosis) when you have anesthetics in surgery, they will trigger detoxes, and you may get high. When the toxicosis is gone, you will not have this reaction if you need anesthetics. I needed some codeine after having dental implants, and it did not make me high, whereas years ago it would have, and I would have craved more. You can safely drink when post flood, but probably would not be interested in doing so, and it might make you sick. Here is a paragraph from my scientific paper that briefly explains this. "External factors necessary for life include light, warmth, touch, air, water, and nutrients, but non-vital factors and excess vital factors are stimulants. "Any stimulant, (physical, chemical, mechanical, electrical, thermal, or mental), applied to a nerve first increases and later decreases the number of nerve impulses going over that nerve"(6). Stimulants are toxic, and toxins are stimulatory. Stimulants increase levels of acidic waste products and other toxins. If cellular levels of toxin are already high, a stimulant may cause lysosomes to break and in this way trigger a detoxification crisis. There is an initial 'high' from stimulants caused by increased synaptic levels of norepinephrine. Stimulants are useful in triggering needed detoxification crises, but in the absence of toxicosis stimulants are not needed or desired." Ellie The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://homepages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety
> >"Any stimulant, (physical, chemical, mechanical, electrical, thermal, or mental), applied to a nerve first increases and later decreases the number of nerve impulses going over that nerve"(6). Stimulants are toxic, and toxins are stimulatory. < Ellie > Please give examples of: A physical stimulant (other than obvious; speed-like drugs, caffeine) A mechanical stimulant An electrical stimulant A thermal stimulant A mental stimulant YM
hitting someone on the head with a baseball bat, deep message > An electrical stimulant... shock treatment, use of electricity in acupuncture > A thermal stimulant too much sun, a hot shower > A mental stimulant yelling at someone, ie misdirected anger, compulsive thought, guilt The point is that any of these will injure nerve cells, and if nerve cells are toxic, this can trigger a detox crisis. People with toxic minds tend to crave stimulants, because physiologically they trigger detox crises. This is the big paradox, toxins trigger detoxes, if you get drunk you are likely to get angry. It's like homeopathy. If when you crave a stimulant, you do some redirecting, you can speed recovery. Post flood people no longer crave these. Hence addictions cease. Ellie > The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://homepages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety 637 From: Elnora Van Winkle> Date: Fri Jul 28, 2000 8:29pm Subject: Creativity post flood I'm busy doing so many things I am working on TWO books, seeking band mates, doing my little cottage industry with the "magic pills", have two flute students, painting a lot of art, and doing beadwork. I've never been so happy in my life. I'm now getting the rhythm of going from one segment of a project to another, and not worrying about how soon it will all get done. It just does, naturally. A fresh creative "wind" comes and you ride it until it begins to get calm and die down. Then you pick something else up or read a book or go to sleep. It's starting to be a whole lot of fun, and I'm starting to see my path much clearer than before, and as I relax and don't wonder IF I can accomplish something, I find all kinds of inspiration and confidence pouring in, and in a sequence that makes it real and do-able. NS The Biology of Emotions: http://home.earthlink.net/~clearpathway OR: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Sauna/2579 The longer version, the scientific paper, and my story: http://homepages.nyu.edu/~er26 To join the supportive eGroup: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Depression-Anxiety Yüklə 5,47 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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