Upgem midterm seminar Helsinki July 2007 ‘Research activity’ presentation by Cristina Belardi and Giulia Calafiore


but for the most part, managing these things is practically in my hands, and he takes them every now and then, oh, on Saturdays, for example, when I used to work he would take care of them



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but for the most part, managing these things is practically in my hands, and he takes them every now and then, oh, on Saturdays, for example, when I used to work he would take care of them.

  • but for the most part, managing these things is practically in my hands, and he takes them every now and then, oh, on Saturdays, for example, when I used to work he would take care of them.

  • GC: I see .

  • ICEBERG8: so he is not a father that does not exist

  • GC: who is absent

  • ICEBERG8: no, definitely not, no, he plays with them a lot, but for some things, then, somehow he follows the example of a father who likes playing and doesn’t like doing the part



GC: all the rest! [smiles].

  • GC: all the rest! [smiles].

  • ICEBERG8: yes, I can see it, but then it’s hard - although I am protesting, anyway, I am not someone who can put up with this situation, so anyway, hum, I don’t know, you’ve got to take them to a dentist, to a paediatrician, to, hum, and it’s me who remembers that now I should do that and so on- I am protesting, and so I am saying:- you’ve got to think about these things too! But then, in the end anyway, let's say, that my protest results in, hum, the fact that if I ask him to do these things, then he-.

  • GC: does

  • ICEBERG8: eventually he will do it but.

  • GC: but you are the one who takes care of these things.

  • ICEBERG8: it’s still me, yes definitely.

  • P 23 NR: 188



Actually interviewed men talk about picking up children

  • GC - How do you manage the family ?

  • Iceberg 9 – Well, it’s difficult_you make flips, you need help, you need a baby-sitter_I have to say that since I’ve worked part-time, things started to get better_I can pick-up my child

  • P167 CC:, P30 NR: 83



Cultural model: women follow men

  • SMALL LAKE2: (...) so I took fellow, I had just moved there so, practically the day after the wedding I left for VN (NdA: at Cern).

  • CB: ah.

  • SMALL LAKE2: while my husband was in Italy and I told him: -Look I’ll stay for a year just to try and so on, but indeed I did three years as fellow [unclear].

  • CB: ah ah .

  • SMALL LAKE2: after three years as staff member my husband told me: - Either you come back or I leave ! Because in the meanwhile my baby was born, she was three years old and she always said:- Where’s daddy, where’s daddy?

  • CB She was living with you in .

  • SMALL LAKE2: yes she was with me at the [unclear] it was easy because there was a crèche inside the laboratory which was open from eight am to six pm so she was there I could see her playing in the yard so.



CB: I see.

  • CB: I see.

  • SMALL LAKE2: but then as usual when the husband goes somewhere the wife follows him without saying a word and if it is the wife instead who goes somewhere (...) and your husband isn’t there, you need to go back

  • SMALL LAKE2: (...) we still have fights on this, I had to come back because in the meanwhile he had been hired here (NdA: in an Italian university),I had the misfortune that one year later there was a vacancy here so I had no excuses to say.

  • CB: [laughs] even so.

  • SMALL LAKE2: I came back.



CB: you would have liked better staying .

  • CB: you would have liked better staying .

  • SMALL LAKE2: but in fact I didn’t actually worked that hard to get this job here, but instead, surprise they hired me .

  • CB: they wanted you [laughs] and so.

  • SMALL LAKE2: nevertheless eeh and they even asked me to end the contract with RW right away so I could also .

  • CB: ah and why is it?

  • SMALL LAKE2: because they wanted me to start here to coordinate the group [unclear].

  • CB: so that’s it you had to leave everything

  • SMALL LAKE 2: I mean leave everything, actually I still have a number of responsibilities at RW and this is why now you know my family is happy because I’m here and then once a month I go back there for a week.

  • P108 CC: 220, P3 NR: 219



We found interesting quotations about Sexual harassment in different countries (Italy and USA) i.e. different cultural models and practices

  • We found interesting quotations about Sexual harassment in different countries (Italy and USA) i.e. different cultural models and practices



Sexual harassment: different cultural models (meanings) and practices

  • CB: Would you be surprised if one of your colleagues, male or female, was to mention sexual harassment in this environment?

  • SMALL LAKE2: [laughts] it’s a sign of dynamism .

  • CB: so there isn’t any.

  • SMALL LAKE2: yes, no I would be truly surprised since the environment .

  • CB: it is very quiet very calm .

  • SMALL LAKE2: it is calm in that sense, as far as I know.

  • CB: and what about abroad, your experience abroad.

  • SMALL LAKE2: well my experience abroad was funny in the sense that when I was working at [unclear] they are a little bit obsessive there so it was sufficient to- I remember there was a technician from Pisa when I was attending my PhD course who was on a staircase, an American secretary passed by and he said in Tuscan “ah bella !” (What a beautiful girl!), she pressed charges against him and he found himself on the newspaper.


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