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(6:08 PM) Alert: This is a G rated room intended for a General Audience including minors. Offensive language is not permitted.

(6:08 PM) Alert: Welcome to the Shariah Program class.
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(6:20 PM) aishababaii: Assalamu Aleikum

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(6:23 PM) ummalik_2: ws

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(6:27 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: ws wr wb

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nadeemabdulhamid: as-salaamu 'alaykum... starting in a bit insha-Allah

(6:31 PM) abdallah_126: wa alaikam salaam

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(6:31 PM) aichax: ws wr wb

(6:32 PM) ummalik_2: ws

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(6:32 PM) Naeema_733: waaleykum salaam wr wb

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(6:32 PM) nkamdar: walaikum salaam

(6:33 PM) aishababaii: Ws

(6:33 PM) aichax: y

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(6:33 PM) ruquya: yeah

(6:33 PM) purda: y

(6:33 PM) ruquya: ws

(6:33 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: 1

(6:33 PM) thanzila: yes

(6:33 PM) abdallah_126: wa alaikam salaa

(6:33 PM) nkamdar: y

(6:33 PM) aishababaii: y

(6:33 PM) ummalik_2: ws

(6:33 PM) Naeema_733: waaleykum salaam

(6:33 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: ws wr wb

(6:33 PM) purda: walaikum salam

(6:34 PM) ummalik_2: y

(6:34 PM) jtabiade: is there sound?

(6:34 PM) thanzila: yes

(6:34 PM) ummalik_2: yes

(6:34 PM) aishababaii: yes

(6:34 PM) abdallah_126: y

(6:34 PM) ruquya: yes

nadeemabdulhamid: yes sound is coming.. please re-enter if you can't hear

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nadeemabdulhamid: jtabiade: can you hear now?

(6:35 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: where should we ideally be in terms of sarf

(6:35 PM) ruquya: can u list the 22 places

(6:35 PM) jtabiade: no i am switching computers

(6:36 PM) abdallah_126: and define the 22 places with examples please

(6:37 PM) ruquya: much better

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(6:38 PM) owism: first are the tense tables and then the baabs

(6:38 PM) aichax: n

(6:38 PM) abdallah_126: baabs, khaasiyaat

(6:38 PM) ruquya: basic verb conj

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(6:39 PM) ummalik_2: irregularities

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(6:40 PM) aishababaii: does the middle letter variation fall under the irregularities?

nadeemabdulhamid: nasara

nadeemabdulhamid: sami'a

(6:40 PM) IbnShafiq: no

(6:40 PM) desertsand09: no

(6:40 PM) ummalik_2: no

nadeemabdulhamid: karuma

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(6:40 PM) ummalik_2: baabs

nadeemabdulhamid: first 6 "baabs" -- handle middle letter variations

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(6:42 PM) IbnShafiq: thulaathi mujarrad?

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(6:43 PM) aishababaii: yes please

(6:43 PM) desertsand09: yeh .. plz

nadeemabdulhamid: nasara - sami'a - karuma

(6:44 PM) desertsand09: sounds gone?

(6:44 PM) ruquya: no

(6:44 PM) AbdulKareem4: no

(6:44 PM) abdallah_126: no

(6:44 PM) aishababaii: its there

(6:44 PM) javey1: no

(6:44 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: no

(6:44 PM) AbdulKareem4: exit the rroom

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(6:45 PM) desertsand09: ok its back

(6:45 PM) aster1sk: Re-enter the room

(6:46 PM) ruquya: with its muthari

(6:46 PM) AbdulKareem4: because of the maaduree?

(6:46 PM) ummalik_2: because the mudharri is different

nadeemabdulhamid: nasara - dharaba

nadeemabdulhamid: yansuru - yadhribu

nadeemabdulhamid: (nasara - yansuru)

nadeemabdulhamid: (dharaba - yadhribu)

(6:47 PM) IbnShafiq: smi

(6:47 PM) nkamdar: fataha yaftahu?

(6:48 PM) IbnShafiq: sami'a yasma'u

nadeemabdulhamid: (fataha - yaftahu)

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nadeemabdulhamid: (sami'a - yasma'u)

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(6:49 PM) aichax: hasiba - yahsibu

(6:49 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: shariba

(6:49 PM) IbnShafiq: hasiba

(6:49 PM) ruquya: ha se ba

(6:49 PM) desertsand09: hasiba

nadeemabdulhamid: (hasiba - yahsibu)

(6:50 PM) ruquya: ka ro ma

nadeemabdulhamid: (karuma - yakrumu)

(6:51 PM) IbnShafiq: fataha

(6:51 PM) AbdulKareem4: fataha

(6:51 PM) desertsand09: fataha

(6:51 PM) AbdulKareem4: karuma

(6:51 PM) AbdulKareem4: hasiba

(6:51 PM) AbdulKareem4: yes

(6:51 PM) ruquya: karoma

(6:51 PM) IbnShafiq: karuma first

(6:51 PM) desertsand09: karuma

(6:51 PM) desertsand09: then hasiba

(6:51 PM) aishababaii: so how do you recognise a verb to know if it has different middle letter?

(6:51 PM) desertsand09: exposure?

nadeemabdulhamid: shariba

nadeemabdulhamid: akala

(6:52 PM) aishababaii: oh ok..got it jzk

(6:53 PM) AbdulKareem4: akrama

(6:53 PM) desertsand09: sarrafa

(6:53 PM) desertsand09: qaatala

(6:53 PM) abdallah_126: up to taqaabala

(6:53 PM) ruquya: up to taqaabila

(6:53 PM) ummalik_2: until taqaabala

(6:53 PM) AbdulKareem4: not for evening class

(6:53 PM) ummalik_2: maybe it's coming

(6:53 PM) ummalik_2: today

(6:53 PM) AbdulKareem4: yes

(6:53 PM) desertsand09: oh yeh... evening class will do taqabbala

(6:54 PM) desertsand09: and begin taqabbala

nadeemabdulhamid: karuma - yakrumu

nadeemabdulhamid: akrama - yukrimu

(6:56 PM) ummalik_2: what does ijtanaba mean

(6:56 PM) ummalik_2: yes

(6:57 PM) aichax: refrain

(6:57 PM) ummalik_2: jak

(6:57 PM) abdallah_126: how crucial do you find being solid on these in the second year?

(6:58 PM) ummalik_2: and how to recognise base letters to check the dictionary

(6:58 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: so to recap ustaz, we've done the basics, the six middle letter variations, and two extra-letter verbs?

(6:58 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: five okay, thank you

nadeemabdulhamid: aslama

nadeemabdulhamid: alif seen laam meem

(6:59 PM) desertsand09: ÃóÓúáóãó

(6:59 PM) desertsand09: i tried.. never happened

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(6:59 PM) desertsand09: seen laam meem

(7:00 PM) ruquya: is the second to last letter always the ain kalima?

nadeemabdulhamid: akrama

(7:00 PM) desertsand09: which letter is the extra one in sarrafa?

(7:01 PM) ummalik_2: Alqaw

(7:01 PM) IbnShafiq: ra?

(7:01 PM) desertsand09: the first raa or 2nd?

nadeemabdulhamid: sallama

nadeemabdulhamid: one minute

(7:01 PM) ummalik_2: ok

(7:02 PM) ummalik_2: ws

(7:02 PM) AbdulKareem4: wslm

(7:03 PM) IbnShafiq: weak letter?

(7:03 PM) desertsand09: so in sallama... is the 1st laam extra or 2nd...

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(7:03 PM) desertsand09: and other verbs on same pattern..

(7:04 PM) desertsand09: ok thats fine

(7:04 PM) ummalik_2: no

(7:05 PM) AbdulKareem4: i'm fine fornow

(7:05 PM) abdallah_126: (the first laam is extra)

(7:05 PM) ruquya: no du have link?

(7:05 PM) aster1sk: http://www.shariahprogram.net/students/The%2022%20Places.doc

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(7:06 PM) ruquya: jazakallah

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(7:06 PM) abdallah_126: see their sates

(7:06 PM) AbdulKareem4: to know grammatical states?

nadeemabdulhamid: mudhaaf

(7:07 PM) ruquya: so wee know what vowel endings

(7:07 PM) IbnShafiq: for analyzing and understand the meaning of the text

(7:07 PM) musthak41: to id their roles within sentences

nadeemabdulhamid: ism's

nadeemabdulhamid: raf' nasb jarr

(7:10 PM) IbnShafiq: absolutely

(7:10 PM) aishababaii: yes

(7:10 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: that would be wonderful

(7:10 PM) thanzila: yes

(7:10 PM) Naeema_733: yes please

(7:10 PM) jtabiade: y

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(7:10 PM) AbdulKareem4: yes

(7:10 PM) desertsand09: yeh

(7:10 PM) abdallah_126: yeah thats great

nadeemabdulhamid: faa'il

(7:10 PM) AbdulKareem4: doer

(7:10 PM) jtabiade: doer

(7:10 PM) abdallah_126: subject

(7:10 PM) IbnShafiq: the doer of a verb

(7:10 PM) desertsand09: doer of the action

(7:10 PM) AbdulKareem4: in a jumlah feiliyyah

(7:11 PM) abdallah_126: saajida

(7:11 PM) jtabiade: Zaid hit amr (zaid)

(7:11 PM) desertsand09: daraba zaydun amran

(7:11 PM) ummalik_2: zaid, zaid hit the boy

(7:11 PM) IbnShafiq: Dharaba Zaidun

nadeemabdulhamid: dharaba zaydun 'amran

nadeemabdulhamid: 2. naa'ib faa'il

(7:11 PM) IbnShafiq: deputy doer of a verb

(7:11 PM) ruquya: deputy doer

(7:11 PM) IbnShafiq: when the verb is passive

(7:12 PM) jtabiade: in passive case

(7:12 PM) ummalik_2: The apple, apple was eaten

(7:12 PM) desertsand09: subject of the passive verb

(7:12 PM) AbdulKareem4: the subject of a passive sentence

(7:12 PM) IbnShafiq: Dhuriba Zaidun

(7:13 PM) IbnShafiq: Dhuriba Amrun

nadeemabdulhamid: dhuriba amrun = "Amr was hit"

(7:13 PM) desertsand09: dhuriba amrun (amr was hit)

nadeemabdulhamid: dharaba zaydun amran = "Zayd hit Amr"

nadeemabdulhamid: jumlah fi'liyyah

(7:14 PM) AbdulKareem4: mubtada issubject of a jumlah ismiyyah..

nadeemabdulhamid: jumlah ismiyyah

(7:14 PM) desertsand09: subject of a ismiyyah sentence

nadeemabdulhamid: 3. mubtada

(7:14 PM) desertsand09: zaydun taweelun

(7:14 PM) desertsand09: zayd is tall

nadeemabdulhamid: 4. khabar = predicate

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(7:15 PM) ruquya: y

(7:15 PM) jtabiade: y

(7:15 PM) desertsand09: y

(7:15 PM) AbdulKareem4: so taweelun is khaber?

nadeemabdulhamid: inna zaydan taweelun

nadeemabdulhamid: 5. inna and its sisters

nadeemabdulhamid: ism of inna; khabar of inna

(7:17 PM) aishababaii: so you can Inna and sisters changes the mubtada into Ism?

(7:17 PM) aishababaii: k thnks

(7:18 PM) AbdulKareem4: qestion

(7:18 PM) AbdulKareem4: the khabar in the JI is in rafi state?

nadeemabdulhamid: mubtada + khabar <--- both are in raf'

nadeemabdulhamid: inna + + <--- only khabar is in raf'

nadeemabdulhamid: 6. kaana and its sisters

nadeemabdulhamid: kaana + +

nadeemabdulhamid: <-- ism is in raf'

(7:20 PM) ummalik_2: Can a kaana sentence be a jumlah fi'liyyah or jumlah ismiyyah? Depending on content?

nadeemabdulhamid: kaana <-- fi'l naaqis (deficient/auxiliary verb)

(7:21 PM) desertsand09: what does it mean by deficient verb?

(7:21 PM) IbnShafiq: so all of the sisters of kaana ar naqis?

(7:21 PM) IbnShafiq: are*

(7:21 PM) abdallah_126: weak letters?

(7:21 PM) musthak41: it has waw or ya as a root

(7:21 PM) aichax: needs predicate

nadeemabdulhamid: sarf -- fi'l naaqis | nahw -- fi'l naaqis

(7:21 PM) ummalik_2: it needs more explanation than itself

(7:22 PM) ruquya: does it need a doer

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(7:22 PM) abdallah_126: naaiqs in nahu- does not have a faail?

(7:23 PM) desertsand09: would it not be hidden?

(7:23 PM) musthak41: yeah

(7:23 PM) Tajweed_Rkp: its intransative.. so by the faa'il alone it should be complete

(7:23 PM) Tajweed_Rkp: but yet it isnt

(7:23 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: it's meaningless without the khabar

nadeemabdulhamid: akala

nadeemabdulhamid: akala zaydun ... = Zayd ate...

nadeemabdulhamid: kaana = "to be"

nadeemabdulhamid: kaana + +

nadeemabdulhamid: kaana zaydun ...

nadeemabdulhamid: "Zayd was ..."

(7:25 PM) desertsand09: could it be like a helping verb?

(7:26 PM) aishababaii: ok sorry taking u back..so in kaana sentence ISM - Raf and khabar - mubtada? and in the Inna sentence its opposite of that?

nadeemabdulhamid: kaana + + <--- ism is in raf' ; khabar is in nasb

nadeemabdulhamid: inna + + <--- ism is in nasb; khabar is in raf'

(7:27 PM) aishababaii: ok got it thnks

nadeemabdulhamid: 7. ism of maa and laa which resemble laysa

nadeemabdulhamid: laysa <--- fi'l naaqis that is a kaana sister

nadeemabdulhamid: maa al-waladu qaa'iman fil-masjid

nadeemabdulhamid: mal-waladu ...

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nadeemabdulhamid: The boy is not standing in the masjid.

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nadeemabdulhamid: laysa al-waladu qaa'iman fil-masjid

(7:31 PM) jtabiade: so what is the def. of 7

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(7:31 PM) aichax: you can say laa al-waladu... in the same meaning?

nadeemabdulhamid: The ism of the particles 'maa' and 'laa' which are used in a meaning resembling that of 'laysa'

(7:31 PM) desertsand09: have we covered 7 and 8 yet in the recordings?

(7:32 PM) ummalik_2: I don't think so

(7:32 PM) abdallah_126: yep

(7:32 PM) ummalik_2: but I know we did the last one

nadeemabdulhamid: 8. khabar of the laa of class negation

nadeemabdulhamid: 'laa'

(7:33 PM) ummalik_2: of maybe week 11

nadeemabdulhamid: homonym

nadeemabdulhamid: 'laa firaasha mawjoodun fil-bi'ri' = "There is no bed in the well."

nadeemabdulhamid: laa + + <-- khabar is in raf'

(7:35 PM) ummalik_2: so khabr is the well

(7:35 PM) desertsand09: mawjoodun?

(7:35 PM) ummalik_2: ok

(7:35 PM) desertsand09: is fil biri mutaalliq?

(7:35 PM) musthak41: present

nadeemabdulhamid: "There is no bed present in the well."

(7:35 PM) ummalik_2: how can we tell the difference between these two laas

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(7:36 PM) desertsand09: could it be presense or absense of al on the ism?

(7:36 PM) ummalik_2: insha Allah it will stick

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(7:37 PM) desertsand09: because for al-jins... there would be no al.. because ur not talking about anything specific?

(7:37 PM) desertsand09: just a guess.. not sure

nadeemabdulhamid: laa firaasha ....

(7:38 PM) Tajweed_Rkp: mal waladu

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(7:38 PM) ummalik_2: is it the first one translates as not, the second as no?

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(7:39 PM) ummalik_2: ok

(7:41 PM) jtabiade: Does anyone know if this is being recorded?

(7:41 PM) jtabiade: ws

(7:41 PM) ummalik_2: ws

(7:41 PM) jtabiade: ok. jzk

nadeemabdulhamid: Nasb

(7:42 PM) ummalik_2: maf'uul bihi

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nadeemabdulhamid: sorry... one minute

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(7:43 PM) jtabiade: ws

(7:43 PM) aichax: direct object

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nadeemabdulhamid: dharaba zaydun amran

(7:44 PM) ruquya: zaid hit amar,so amar is object

(7:44 PM) ummalik_2: Have we gone overtime? should we continue another time?

(7:44 PM) ummalik_2: Ok

(7:45 PM) jtabiade: i am good

(7:45 PM) ruquya: no its ok please continue

(7:45 PM) IbnShafiq: jazakAllah brother

nadeemabdulhamid: 2. maf'ool mutlaq

(7:46 PM) desertsand09: i think briefly

nadeemabdulhamid: normal adverb / "absolute object"

(7:46 PM) ruquya: weve discussed it in qassas

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nadeemabdulhamid: 3. maf'ool lahu

(7:47 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: object of purpose

(7:47 PM) aichax: adverb of cause / reason

nadeemabdulhamid: adverb of reason/cause

(7:47 PM) musthak41: in response to the question why

nadeemabdulhamid: dharabtuhu ta'deeban = I hit him [in order to] teach him manners.

nadeemabdulhamid: 4. maf'ool fihi

(7:48 PM) desertsand09: adverb of time/ place

nadeemabdulhamid: sumtu shahran = "I fasted for a month"

nadeemabdulhamid: jalastu khalfa-ka

nadeemabdulhamid: = "I sat behind you"

(7:49 PM) aichax: mudhaaf

(7:49 PM) ummalik_2: becaus of mudhaaf

(7:50 PM) aishababaii: what places do we always have tanween?

(7:50 PM) ruquya: can we have name of it for chart purposes

(7:50 PM) ummalik_2: indefinite if there is no change restriction

(7:50 PM) ruquya: indefinate

(7:50 PM) abdallah_126: indefinate ism

(7:50 PM) musthak41: is it not the default for most isms

(7:51 PM) ruquya: male names

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(7:51 PM) aishababaii: k jzk

(7:51 PM) desertsand09: acompanment?

nadeemabdulhamid: adverb of accompaniment

(7:52 PM) Tajweed_Rkp: ma'a

(7:52 PM) desertsand09: if its after ma'a would it not be mudhaaf ilayh?

(7:52 PM) Tajweed_Rkp: jitu wa zaidan

nadeemabdulhamid: ji'tu wa zaydan <---- MISTAKE IN AUDIO

nadeemabdulhamid: 6. Haal

(7:53 PM) desertsand09: state of the doer or mafool bihi or both

nadeemabdulhamid: jaa'a zaydun raakiban - "Zayd [while in the state of] riding"

nadeemabdulhamid: "Zayd came*..."

nadeemabdulhamid: ji'tu Zaydan naa'iman = "I came to Zayd, [while he was] sleeping"

nadeemabdulhamid: 7. tameez

(7:55 PM) desertsand09: removal of vagueness

(7:55 PM) desertsand09: from whats preceding it

(7:56 PM) desertsand09: wa kaana lahu ahada ashara akhan

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nadeemabdulhamid: ok one minute again...

(7:57 PM) aster1sk: no problem

(7:58 PM) desertsand09: if you need more time.. im sure we can wait

(7:58 PM) ruquya: jazakallah for your time as it is

(7:59 PM) jtabiade: I suggest we let the brother attend to his family. He has given us 1.5 hours mashaAllah

(7:59 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: ws

(7:59 PM) abdallah_126: ws

nadeemabdulhamid: the ism which is excluded from that which comes before it in the sentence

nadeemabdulhamid: jaa'anee al-qawmu illa zaydan

nadeemabdulhamid: The people came to me except Zayd.

(8:01 PM) IbnShafiq: is it necessary to include illa?

nadeemabdulhamid: 1. majroor = object of preposition

(8:03 PM) ruquya: 17 i think

(8:03 PM) desertsand09: kitabu zaydin

(8:03 PM) desertsand09: yes very....

(8:03 PM) abdallah_126: jazakham Allahu khayran

(8:03 PM) jtabiade: jazakAllahu khairan brother

(8:03 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: Thank you so much

(8:03 PM) ruquya: extremly

(8:03 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: very helpful

(8:03 PM) aichax: jzk khairan

(8:03 PM) ummalik_2: jazakallahu khaira

(8:03 PM) Ibn Ahmad 2000: jazakAllah

(8:03 PM) ummalik_2: mashallah

(8:03 PM) desertsand09: jazakumullahu khair for your time

(8:03 PM) thanzila: jazakallah u khair

(8:04 PM) aishababaii: Jazakallah

(8:04 PM) Naeema_733: JazakAllahu Khayran

(8:04 PM) musthak41: barakaAllah fik

(8:04 PM) abdallah_126: wa alaikam salaam

(8:04 PM) desertsand09: thankYOU!

(8:04 PM) aishababaii: WS

(8:04 PM) musthak41: ws wr wb

(8:04 PM) aichax: ws wr wb

(8:04 PM) nkamdar: ws

(8:04 PM) AbdulKareem4: walaikumussalaam

(8:04 PM) ruquya: ws

(8:04 PM) thanzila: walaykumusalaam

(8:04 PM) jtabiade: wa alaikum as salam

nadeemabdulhamid: wa iyyaakum

(8:04 PM) ummalik_2: ws

(8:04 PM) desertsand09: ws

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(8:04 PM) IbnShafiq: may Allah reward u abundantly, wa 'alaykum assalaam

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(8:04 PM) Naeema_733: waaleykum assalam

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(8:04 PM) purda: jzk walaikum salam

(8:04 PM) ruquya: mashallh that was soo good

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(8:04 PM) desertsand09: yeh.. definately helpful

(8:04 PM) aishababaii: WS..this has been very helpful MashaAllah

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(8:04 PM) ruquya: it helped clear it up and tie up things

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