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Alert: Welcome to the Shariah Program weekend Arabic classes

(9:29 AM) shahid31-1: Could u please tell me which book are we going to start today

(9:30 AM) shuaibahmed: Shahid: we should be continuing the hidayatun Nahw

(9:30 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: as-salaamu 'alaykum,

(9:30 AM) shuaibahmed: ws

(9:31 AM) shahid31-1: Thank you, I do not have this . Is this available online to download.

(9:32 AM) shuaibahmed: Yes, Nadeem has made this availble at http://cs.berry.edu/~nhamid/personal/sp/hidayatunnahw/index.html

(9:34 AM) SunniWaqas: Assalam u aliakum everybody

(9:34 AM) happiness and salafiyyah: wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmetullaah

(9:35 AM) course instructor: starting in a couple of minutes insha Allah

(9:35 AM) syed_k: salamalekum

(9:36 AM) SunniWaqas: walaikkum assalam

(9:36 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: ws

(9:37 AM) shuaibahmed: yes

(9:37 AM) raissk: y

(9:37 AM) naznin31: y

(9:37 AM) Haali_5: y

(9:37 AM) omerkhan99: y

(9:40 AM) saf1989: y

(9:40 AM) maaz_houston: y

(9:40 AM) maaz_houston: class started, if you can't hear re-enter

(9:40 AM) saf1989: class has started, if u cant hear re-enter

(9:41 AM) saf1989: mufradin

(9:41 AM) syed_k: din

(9:41 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: mufradin

(9:42 AM) maaz_houston: change restricted?

(9:42 AM) shuaibahmed: mabni?

(9:43 AM) maaz_houston: different way to show the jarr?

(9:43 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: ends in alif maqsoorah

(9:43 AM) course instructor: ism maqsoor

(9:44 AM) maaz_houston: y

(9:44 AM) omerkhan99: y

(9:44 AM) raissk: y

(9:44 AM) owaisk: y

(9:44 AM) Arif5000: y

(9:44 AM) hefsasharif: y

(9:44 AM) syed_k: y

(9:46 AM) saf1989: yes

(9:46 AM) saf1989: kalimah is an utterance which is coined for a literal meaning

(9:46 AM) saf1989: jazakallah

(9:47 AM) saf1989: *single

(9:47 AM) Arif5000: munhisaratun

(9:47 AM) owaisk: mun

(9:47 AM) SunniWaqas: muhhasiratun

(9:47 AM) syed_k: mun

(9:49 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: infaTara

(9:49 AM) raissk: infatara

(9:49 AM) SunniWaqas: Infatar

(9:49 AM) SunniWaqas: a

(9:49 AM) hefsasharif: isnfatara

(9:49 AM) SunniWaqas: so this is an Ismul Faail?

(9:50 AM) raissk: why does the saad have a kasra?

(9:51 AM) raissk: ok

(9:51 AM) raissk: y

(9:51 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: y

(9:51 AM) maaz_houston: y

(9:51 AM) syed_k: no

(9:51 AM) Arif5000: y

(9:51 AM) SunniWaqas: can you repeat that please?

(9:51 AM) syed_k: y

(9:53 AM) Arif5000: y

(9:53 AM) maaz_houston: y

(9:55 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: connects to wudhi'a?

(9:55 AM) Arif5000: y

(9:55 AM) omerkhan99: y

(9:55 AM) aster1sk: y

(9:55 AM) shuaibahmed: please repeat the q

(9:55 AM) syed_k: n

(9:55 AM) mamoon_a: n

(9:55 AM) maaz_houston: is it munhasiratun?

(9:55 AM) SunniWaqas: munhasiratun

(9:56 AM) raissk: what does munhasiratun mean?

(9:56 AM) maaz_houston: to be limited

(9:56 AM) course instructor: wajhul 'hasri

(9:58 AM) saf1989: yaqtarina

(9:58 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: yaqtarinu

(9:58 AM) Arif5000: YAqtirna

(9:58 AM) aster1sk: sign of rafa?

(9:59 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: no tanween, because it's mudhaaf, so the alif is not dropped

(9:59 AM) aster1sk: y

(9:59 AM) mamoon_a: y

(9:59 AM) abdul razak_1: y

(10:01 AM) aster1sk: y

(10:01 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: y

(10:01 AM) Haali_5: y

(10:01 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:02 AM) aster1sk: y

(10:02 AM) maaz_houston: repeat the last part one time pls

(10:02 AM) maaz_houston: ism part

(10:03 AM) saf1989: n

(10:03 AM) khaledhasan1987: n

(10:03 AM) aster1sk: n

(10:03 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: n

(10:03 AM) mamoon_a: n

(10:03 AM) omerkhan99: n

(10:03 AM) shuaibahmed: n

(10:03 AM) SunniWaqas: what does it mean 'its meaning will not be attached to it'?

(10:04 AM) raissk: can you repeat the translation from li annaha

(10:04 AM) SunniWaqas: yep

(10:04 AM) SunniWaqas: JazakAllah

(10:06 AM) abdul razak_1: ism

(10:06 AM) saf1989: ism

(10:06 AM) raissk: ism

(10:06 AM) saf1989: yes

(10:06 AM) khaledhasan1987: y

(10:06 AM) raissk: y

(10:06 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:06 AM) abdul razak_1: y

(10:06 AM) maaz_houston: y

(10:06 AM) owaisk: y

(10:06 AM) SunniWaqas: y

(10:07 AM) aster1sk: y

(10:08 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: extension from ma'nan somehow... sifah?

(10:09 AM) aster1sk: y

(10:09 AM) saf1989: y

(10:10 AM) syed_k: y

(10:11 AM) saf1989: n

(10:11 AM) maaz_houston: what is the translation from bihad?

(10:11 AM) khaledhasan1987: n

(10:11 AM) aster1sk: n

(10:11 AM) shuaibahmed: qhy is it ilmin?

(10:12 AM) raissk: a'na = ?

(10:12 AM) raissk: a'ni ok... what does it mean

(10:12 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: "I mean"

(10:12 AM) abdul razak_1: did we mention why ghair is is jarr?

(10:13 AM) aster1sk: extension from ma'nan

(10:13 AM) abdul razak_1: what kind of extension?

(10:14 AM) Arif5000: What is the meaning os "Tadullu"?

(10:14 AM) abdul razak_1: I was asking why it is matching.

(10:14 AM) abdul razak_1: ok

(10:16 AM) raissk: I didn't understand why "almadi" is an ism?

(10:16 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: "the past"

(10:16 AM) raissk: ok

(10:17 AM) raissk: correct?

(10:17 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: health

(10:17 AM) SunniWaqas: health?

(10:17 AM) SunniWaqas:

(10:17 AM) aster1sk: condition

(10:18 AM) Arif5000: correctness

(10:18 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: soundness

(10:18 AM) shuaibahmed: from the dictionary:exactitude, trueness, truth, validity, purity, legitimacy, veracity, fidelity

(10:19 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: y

(10:19 AM) aster1sk: akhbaar has another meaning (newspaper) and that cant apply here?

(10:19 AM) maaz_houston: cause you know its plural?

(10:20 AM) maaz_houston: i thought you said it is broken plural?

(10:20 AM) maaz_houston: got it

(10:20 AM) maaz_houston: jzk

(10:21 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: y

(10:21 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:22 AM) SunniWaqas: can you repeat the translation please?

(10:25 AM) Arif5000: Waljarri wattanveeni

(10:25 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: jarru.. tanweenu...

(10:25 AM) maaz_houston: jari wat tanweenu

(10:25 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: oh ok

(10:25 AM) maaz_houston: my books got a dhammah on the second one

(10:25 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: yeah the ar-raazi version has kasrah on one and dhammah on one.. which is a mistake

(10:27 AM) saf1989: y

(10:27 AM) mamoon_a: y

(10:27 AM) raissk: y

(10:29 AM) saf1989: y

(10:29 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:29 AM) maaz_houston: y

(10:29 AM) SunniWaqas: y

(10:29 AM) mamoon_a: y

(10:29 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: y

(10:29 AM) maaz_houston: do you make the masdar

(10:29 AM) maaz_houston: in dual

(10:29 AM) Arif5000: Dualize the masdar to indicate the action twice

(10:31 AM) saf1989: y

(10:33 AM) mamoon_a: y

(10:33 AM) abdul razak_1: yes

(10:33 AM) aster1sk: y

(10:33 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:33 AM) saf1989: y

(10:33 AM) raissk: can yo urepeat an example of tasgher

(10:33 AM) raissk: ok

(10:33 AM) course instructor: ru jailun

(10:33 AM) abdul razak_1: Hasan, Husain

(10:33 AM) course instructor: hu sain

(10:33 AM) SunniWaqas: so tasgheer = change of vowelling to indicate inferiority

(10:34 AM) Arif5000: To show being small

(10:36 AM) raissk: the saad has a kasra in the book...

(10:36 AM) SunniWaqas: ooh

(10:36 AM) raissk: ok

(10:37 AM) Arif5000: governed

(10:37 AM) SunniWaqas: the one who is ruled

(10:38 AM) raissk: ruling?

(10:39 AM) saf1989: y

(10:39 AM) maaz_houston: y

(10:40 AM) raissk: no

(10:40 AM) saf1989: y

(10:40 AM) SunniWaqas: it is Naaib Faail of passive sentence

(10:40 AM) abdul razak_1: no

(10:41 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: what about other types of maf'ools... l

(10:41 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: like maf'ool fihi, etc.?

(10:42 AM) abdul razak_1: y

(10:42 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:42 AM) mamoon_a: y

(10:42 AM) saf1989: y

(10:42 AM) syed_k: y

(10:43 AM) SunniWaqas: can you re-translate from 'allamatuhu onwards before breaking?

(10:43 AM) SunniWaqas: JazakAllah

(10:43 AM) Arif5000: me

(10:44 AM) maaz_houston: its easy to go back and listen to the audio afterwards to fill in the gaps

(10:44 AM) SunniWaqas: well, the Arabic is definitely more difficult than Qasas...

(10:44 AM) maaz_houston: for me..anyway

NadeemSyed: sslightly

(10:44 AM) shuaibahmed: challenging

(10:44 AM) omerkhan99: chalanging

NadeemSyed: chalenging

(10:44 AM) SunniWaqas: yeah, going back and reviewing is a good idea

(10:44 AM) aster1sk: it seemsl ike it, but after you explain it gets obvious

(10:44 AM) SunniWaqas: yeah...it's FARDH...lol

(10:44 AM) mamoon_a: audio is helpful and important

(10:44 AM) raissk: I find that when we do the grammatical analysis of the sentences, I lose track of the meaning of the sentences

(10:45 AM) raissk: yes...

(10:45 AM) mamoon_a: I lose track as well

(10:45 AM) mamoon_a: khair inshallah

(10:45 AM) SunniWaqas: happens with me as well sometimes...

(10:45 AM) SunniWaqas: Sarrafa

(10:46 AM) abdul razak_1: sarrafa

(10:46 AM) SunniWaqas: passive

(10:46 AM) raissk: active

(10:46 AM) Arif5000: active

(10:46 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: passive... active woudl be yusammee

(10:47 AM) raissk: ok

(10:47 AM) omerkhan99: n

(10:47 AM) aster1sk: n

(10:47 AM) abdul razak_1: y

(10:47 AM) mamoon_a: y

(10:47 AM) owaisk: n

(10:47 AM) aster1sk: what was the question

(10:48 AM) omerkhan99: y

(10:48 AM) aster1sk: y

(10:48 AM) shuaibahmed: y

(10:48 AM) owaisk: y

(10:48 AM) SunniWaqas: y

(10:48 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: hidden huwa... "it is called isman"... has two maf'ools in the active, so the 'huwa' is the first maf'ool bihi, becomes naa'ib faa'il

(10:50 AM) Haali_5: y

(10:50 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:50 AM) shuaibahmed: y

(10:50 AM) omerkhan99: sw

(10:50 AM) maaz_houston: somewhat

(10:50 AM) aster1sk: somewhat

(10:51 AM) maaz_houston: the thing given and who it is given to?

(10:51 AM) saf1989: y

(10:51 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:51 AM) nadeemabdulhamid: take away "I"

(10:52 AM) maaz_houston: y

(10:52 AM) khaledhasan1987: y

(10:52 AM) omerkhan99: y

(10:52 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:52 AM) aster1sk: y

(10:52 AM) SunniWaqas: y

(10:52 AM) maaz_houston: ywa

(10:53 AM) Arif5000: y

(10:53 AM) saf1989: y

(10:53 AM) maaz_houston: yes

(10:53 AM) khaledhasan1987: y

(10:53 AM) aster1sk: y

(10:53 AM) mamoon_a: y

(10:53 AM) raissk: y

(10:53 AM) omerkhan99: y

(10:53 AM) saf1989: lol

(10:53 AM) aster1sk: lol

(10:53 AM) Arif5000: sure

(10:53 AM) SunniWaqas: y

(10:53 AM) shuaibahmed: y

(10:53 AM) SunniWaqas: what about the translation?

(10:54 AM) SunniWaqas: JazakAllah

NadeemSyed: ws wr wb

(10:54 AM) aster1sk: ws wr wb

(10:54 AM) saf1989: wswrwb

(10:54 AM) SunniWaqas: ws

(10:58 AM) hefsasharif: can someone please post the transcipt on the forum... I had an emergency ... I had to leave... I missed the middle session

(10:58 AM) aster1sk: i was a few minutes late, but inshallah i will post what i have and maybe someone can edit?

(10:59 AM) hefsasharif: jzk

(11:06 AM) aster1sk: i realised i logged in again half way in the class and lost the log, can someone else save and post this chat transcript?