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QUESTION 770

DATE OF PUBLICATION: Friday, 16 May 2008

INTERNAL QUESTION PAPER NO 13 of 2008

Ms H Weber (DA) to ask the Minister of Home Affairs:
(a) What is the total daily cost for running the Lindelani Immigration Centre, (b) how many people is the centre legally allowed to host, (c) how many illegal immigrants are currently (i) hosted and (ii) daily fed by the centre, (d) how many staff members at the centre are employed by her department, (e) how many posts are vacant at the centre, (f) how long have they been vacant, (g) when are these posts going to be filled and (h) how much has been budgeted to fill them?

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REPLY

(a) The total daily cost of running the Lindela centre is calculated as the average number of illegal foreigners which were detained – per day – over a calendar month. The Department is then charged R105.00 per day to detain one illegal immigrant.

(b) 4004.
(c)(i) As on the morning of 20 May 2008, a total number of 2205 illegal immigrants were hosted at the centre.
(ii) As on the morning of 20 May 2008, a total number of 2205 illegal immigrants were fed by the centre, but the total varies during the course of the day because of new admissions and deportations.
(d) Fifty eight (58) staff members are currently employed at the centre.
(e) There are currently 15 vacant posts.

(f) As per the table below:

Job title description	Post status description	Post date	Vacant date	Salary level
Immigration Officer	Vacant	2004-03-01	2008-02-11	5
Immigration Officer	Vacant	2004-03-01	2007-12-01	6
Immigration Officer	Vacant	2004-03-01	2008-04-01	6
Immigration Officer	Vacant	2004-03-01	2008-04-04	6
Immigration Officer	Vacant	2006-03-16	2008-05-01	6
Immigration Officer	Vacant	2006-03-16	2006-03-16	6
Immigration Officer	Vacant	2006-03-16	2006-03-16	6
Immigration Officer	Vacant	2006-03-16	2006-03-16	6
Control Immigration Officer	Vacant	2007-09-28	2007-09-28	8
Control Immigration Officer	Vacant	2008-04-01	2008-04-01	8
Assistant Director: Immigration services	Vacant	2006-03-16	2006-03-16	10
Senior Administration Clerk	Vacant	2008-03-10	2008-03-10	5
Senior Administration Clerk	Vacant	2007-08-01	2007-08-01	5
Senior Administrative Officer	Vacant	2007-09-01	2007-09-01	8
Assistant Director: Administration	Vacant	2006-01-01	2006-01-01	9

(g) The Department is in the process of finalising a new structure, which will address capacity at this specific office, as well as, all other offices of the Department.

(h) A total amount of R1,190,775,20 has been budgeted to fill all the vacant positions after the finalisation of the new structure.

QUESTION 771

771. Mr KJ Minnie (DA) to ask the Minister for the Public Service and Administration
1) Whether her department makes use of private security firms; if so; how much money was spent on such firms in 2007;
2) Whether these firms are used on a contractual basis; if so, (a) how may contracts did her department take out in this regard in 2007, (b) with which firms were these contracts taken out, (c) for what specific purpose was each contract taken out and (d) what was the value of the contract in each case;
3) Why is there a need for her department to use a private security firm as opposed to state security?
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Response

1. 
   The DPSA does not use private security services. SAMDI makes use of a private security firm and R723 999.96 was spent in 2007.
   

2. 
   SAMDI uses the firm is on a contractual basis. (a) SAMDI only took out one contract in 2007 with (b) Moduane Security Services for (c) access control and to ensure the safety and security of both the staff members and assets. The value of the contract amounts to (d) R60 333.33 per month.
   

3. 
   SAMDI has decided to outsource the security function because it is a specialist activity, and not within the core business or competences of the department’s support function, especially since SAMDI is a small department. Security vetting and issuance of access cards is still performed by allocated permanent staff members in SAMDI. SAMDI continuously monitors the performance of the contracted provider.
   

Question number 772

DATE OF PUBLICATION 16 MAY 2008
MR S J F MARAIS (DA) TO ASK THE MINISTER OF FINANCE:

(1) Whether the National Treasury makes use of private security firms; if so, how much money was spent on such firms in 2007;

(2) Whether these firms are used on a contractual basis; if so, (a) how many contracts did the National Treasury take out in this regard in 2007, (b) with which firms were these contracts taken out, (c) for what specific purpose was each contract taken out and (d) what was the value of the contract in each case;

(3) Why is there a need for the National Treasury to use a private security firm as opposed to state security? N1461E

REPLY:
Yes. An amount of R 2,530,575.96.
Yes.

(a) One contract was awarded in 2007 and ends in 2010.

(b) G4S Security Services.

(c) The private security company, G4S is used for the provision of physical security, which includes guarding outside and within the building, patrolling within the building, escorting of visitors / service providers within the building and escorting of employees between the National Treasury buildings.

R 8, 227, 001.52.
Considering the National Treasury’s risk profile and its physical and information security needs, a decision was made to co-source (in source and out source) security. The surveillance and protection of the state’s information is the responsibility of permanent employees. Physical security which includes guarding the entrance points of the buildings and patrolling within the buildings is entrusted to the private security company who are monitored and supervised by at least one state security employee at each building throughout the 24 hours of the services.

QUESTION 773 (WRITTEN) FRIDAY: 16 MAY 2008

MR J P I BLANCHÉ (DA) TO ASK THE MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS

(1) whether her department makes use of private security firms; if so, how much money was spent on such firms in 2007;

(2) whether these firms are used on a contractual basis; if so, (a) how many contracts did her department take out in this regard in 2007, (b) with which firms were these contracts taken out, (c) for what specific purpose was each contract taken out and (d) what was the value of the contract in each case;

(3) why is there a need for her department to use a private security firm as opposed to state security?

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REPLY:
1. YES, R18 238 708.7

2. YES
(a) 138

(b) See annexure A
(c) Guarding of unutilised buildings which belongs to the department, access control in Regional and Head Office. See Annexure A

(d) See Annexure A

3. The department had vacant or unutilised buildings which cannot be guarded by state security because they are either vacated on a short-term while the department is awaiting to place another client department. Other buildings are guarded while waiting renovations in terms of our National Infrastructure Management Programme and cannot be guarded by State security. There are also view against and for using both state and contract security in government structures. Please see attached the advantages and disadvantages of using either alternative as Annexure B.
Annexure A

CONSOLIDATED REPORT PER REGIONS

Head Office

No	Company	Site	Period	Value
1	Leondale Security Company	Isivuno, Nipilar House, Orange Nassau, CGO and Poyntons	14 Months	R 2 012 450-00

Polokwane Regional Office

No	Company	Site	Period	Value
1	Letaba Commando,Tzaneen	Kgomaganang Business Enterprise,Thohoyandou	14/05/2007	R 105 154.32
2	Sanlam Building. Tender BL. PLQ 7/144	Mabalane Security Services	01/12/2007	R 141 347.97
3	Koos smith Building Polokwane	Master Spairs Security Services.Thohoyandou	01/05/2007	R 81 504.00
4	Soutpansberg Commando,Makhado,Tender No PLQ7/38	Master Spairs Security Services.Thohoyandou	01/05/2007	R 56 521.20
5	Soekmekaar Military Base.Soekmekaar,Tender	Simore Security Services,Seshego	01/05/2007	R 115 276.80
6	Mariepskop Air force Base	Faranani Security Services,P O Box 581,Dzanani,0955	01/05/2007	R 87 276.58
7	House 16,Agatha Street,Tzaneen	Mabalane Security Services,Industrial Site ,Seshego	01/05/2007	R 82 285.00
8	Soutpansberg Commando,Makhado,Tender No PLQ7/115	Tshiraka Security Services,16A Bok Street,Polokwane 0700	01/10/2007	R 76 754.39
9	Boston Military Base,Hoedspruit	Mogaladi Business Enterprise,Polokwane	01/11/2007	R 107 365.86
10	Old SARS Office Sibasa	Kgomaganang Business Enterprise,Thohoyandou,Order 126276	01/09/2007	R 73 004.64
11	Soekmekaar Military Base.Soekmekaar,Tender	Makhumbele Security Services,Phalaborwa	01/09/2007	R95 500.04
12	Mimosa Military Base,Polokwane	Faranani Security Services,P O Box 581,Dzanani,0955	24/12/2007	R 117 506.00
13	36 Agatha Street,Tzaneen	Amatombazane Security Services,Sibasa	01/11/2007	R 71 383.80
14	Letaba Commando,Tzaneen	Faranani Security Services,P O Box 581,Dzanani,0955	16/01/2007	R 73 017.02
15	Boston Military Base,Hoedspruit	Faranani Security Services,P O Box 581,Dzanani,0955	01/05/2007	R 22 911.31
16	36 Agatha Street,Tzaneen	Mabalane Secutity Services,Industrial Site,Seshego	01/10/2007	R 16 457.00
17	Old Department of Labour,Tzaneen	Mogaladi Business Enterprise,Polokwane	11/06/2007	R 83 118.84
18	Pompangalane House 16,Tzaneen	Amatombazane Security Services,Sibasa	10/07/207	R 64 727.55
19	Mimosa Military Base,Polokwane	Tshiraka Security Services,16A Bok Street,Polokwane 0700	22/04/2007	R 88 129.50
20	Mimosa Military Base,Polokwane	Faranani Security Services,P O Box 581,Dzanani,0955	22/07/2007	R 102 069.75
	TOTAL			1 661 311.57

Nelspruit Regional Office

No	Company	Site	Period	Value
1	Lutsango Security Services	Nelspruit Regional Office – Nedbank	01 –Aug-06 to 27 –Dec-07	R628 446.00
2	Phoseka Security Services	Standerton Commando	07-Sep-07 to 07 Mar-08	R96000.00
	Total			R724 446-00