policy he hath used therin be profitable to the realm, or no,
leave that aside. Only shew you, whether if the first matri-
mony were to make, you would approve that then, or no, and
the cause why you would not. And thus weigh the thing in
it self, as it is in his own nature, and put apart fear of al
danger, hope of al good, which should succede, and hangeth
upon worldly policy : and so clearly, without affection either
of King or Queen, briefly give your sentence.
And this you shal first honor God and truth ; and,
second also, satisfy the King : which said to me these words,
That he would rather you "were buried there, than you
sJiouldyJbr any zoorldly promotion and profit to your self^
dissemble xvith him in these great and weighty causes.
This you have my mind, and the Kings plesure withal.
And if case be, that you reach to the judged truth, you
need not to fear, after my mind, that men should lay to you
lightnes of mind and changing of sentence. For, as far as I
can conjecture, you did offer me nothing in the cause, but
only put before his eyes the dangers that hanged upon
worldly policy. If I remember, this you did. I cannot
wel tel. For I never se nor read your book but once, as
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you know wel. At which time it seemed to me you wrot so
profitably, that it put me into a fear of dangers too. But, 1
trust, the goodness of God, and providence of our most wise
Prince, shal avert and turn al such calamities, by mans con-
jecture foreseen, from this our country.
Direct your knowledge, if you se need, by Master Gas-
pero, the Bp. of Chete, with other such men of high learn-
ing and judgment.
>»¦
Number LXXXI.
Starky to Pole ; expostulating icith him Joj- his book against
the King.
Cleopatra, MUCH I have mervailed. Master Pole, al this year past,
¦ ^' •*¦ ^''^' both of your seldom and short writing to me ; considering
the continual diligence used upon my behalf ever towards
you. And tho of late at the first coming of your servant,
when he brought your book, I judge, that you peradven-
ture wrot not, because you were so occupied in the first set-
ting out of your matter, in writing to the Kings Highnes,
wherin you had been before time somewhat slack ; and so
had little leisure : yet now at his second return, when you
wrot to divers others of your friends, I looked to have had
some one word written unto me. For that methought our
friendship required. Wherfore then I began plainly with
my self to judge your mind without causa alienate, as me-
thought ; and most justly I might accuse you of unkindnes,
which used toward me such continual silence. For this I
have ever reckoned, that diversity of opinion in such things,
which pertain not of necessity to mans salvation, should
191 never break love and amity betwixt them which have judg-
ment and discretion ; no more than doth dulnes or sharp-
nes in the sight of the ey : wherin one friend to be angry
with another, because he seeth further, or not so far as doth
he, is very smal reason. For as the one should cause no
anger, so the other should breed no envy. So that tho I
varied fro you in the judgment of the matter, yet your si-
lence declared much ingratitude towards me.
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And this count I made before I read your book. But
after such time as I did read the same, and weighed your
judgment therin, I was nothing sory of this your silence,
but rather glad that you so used your self towards me. For
his letters to read, who hath so little regard of his masters
honor, and so little respect of his friends and country, (as
in your writings you plainly declared,) I have little plesure.
Wherfore though of late 1 had determined never to write to
you again, yet after I had read your book, I was so af-
fected, and with your ingratitude towards your Prince and
country so offended, that I could not temper my self, nor
satisfy my mind, without some declaration therof, by writing
to you, shewed. And so now even as you seemed to me,
ilia tua oratione Principem et patriam, tuo quidem judicio,
pereuntem^ extremis quasi verbis compellare ; so shal I te
i7isamenfem, viea sententia, amicum extrema quasi voce sa-
lutare. For this, I purpose, shal be the last letter that ever
I shal hereafter to you write, donee resipiscas. Wherin I
wil not enter to dispute the ground of the matter, which re-
quireth rather a book than a letter ; but only I shal a lit-
tle open to you the great imprudence and folly, the detest-
able unkinclncs and injury, shewed in your sentence, both
toward your Prince and country. By the reason wherof,
except you shal take heed and consider the matter in time
M-ith better judgment, you shal be utterly cast away your
self with this contempt of your country, and this arrogant
despising of al the judgments therin. Wherfore, Master
Pole, I shal pray you by al such love as I have ever born
to you, which I promise you is greater than ever I bare to
any natural brother, to hear me a little, and weigh my
words indifferently.
And first. Master Pole, how I was affected with reading
of your book, I shal a litde touch. At such time as your
letter was delivered to the King, tho you wrot not to me, I,
forgetting not the office of a friend, requested that your
book might Ix^ committed to the examination of them,
which both had learning to judge and to weigh the matter
indifferently. The which, I promise you, was done. And to
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them I, as your friend, was joyned also. In the reading
wherof, altho we loved you al intyrely, yet your corrupt
judgment in the matter, and your detestable unkindnes to-
wards your Prince, so offended us al, that manytimes our
ears abhorred the hearing. And as for me, I promise, at
the first reading I was so amazed and astonied with the
matter, that I could not wel judg, I wist not with what spi-
rit it was written withall ; and ever methought it should be
some dream, or at the least no oration of Master Pole.
Whom I ever noted to be the most addict to the honor of
the Prince and wealth of his country, that ever yet I knew.
Wherfore I obtained your book to over-read my self alone :
yea, and after yet with my Lord of Durham, I read it most
diligently, observing and noting the whole order and pro-
cess therof. And when I had read it after this maner, I
1 92 was more astonied than I was before. For the comparing
the head to the end, and considering the whole circum-
stance of the matter, plainly to say to you ever as I think,
therin appeared to me the most frantick judgment that ever
I read of any learned man in my life. For herein lyes the
sum of yoiu- book : because we are slipped from the obe-
dience of Rome, you judg us to be separate from the unity
of the Church, and to be no members of the catholic
body, but to be worse than Turks and Saracens. Wherfore
you rail upon our Prince, to bring him ad pcenitentiam,
more vehemently than ever did Gregory against Julian A-
postata, or any other against such tyrants, as persecuted
Christs doctrine. Upon this point you have pretended al
that sharpnes of your oration to spring of love. Yet be
you assured, none are so blinded but to judge it a very
foolish love, which bringeth forth against a prince such a
bitter, sharp, and slanderous oration.
Wherfore, Master Pole, weigh this cause yet a little, and
despise not the consent of your country, and of al the
learned men therin, with too much arrogancy. Byld [Pon-
der] your vehement and frantic oration. But alas! Master
Pole, what abhndnes is this in you thus to judg your master
upon so light an occasion ? For tho we be slipt from the
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obedience of Rome, denying any superiority to be due
therto from the law of God, yet we be not slipt a Jide Ro-
mana, nee a Petri cathedra. We observe and keep the
same faith, which from the beginning hath been taught
in Rome. The which whosoever keepeth, never shppeth a
sede Petri, tho he never hear of any higher power or su-
periority to be given to the Bp. of Rome. You therfore
abuse your self mervailously, to judg us to be separate
from the unity of the Church, because we have reject this
superiority. I mervail that you consider it not, how the
very Christian unity stands upon S. Paulys doctrin, in the
unity of faith and of Spirit, and in a certain knitting toge-
ther of our hearts by love and unity : which may rest in al
kind of policy. For doubtless this superiority of Rome
sprang first of policy, as it is evident by old story. And
Constantine was he that gave therto first authority of al
- - - power to superiority - - - which by others was
confirmed, increased. So, as it began by mans wit and in-
stitution, I think it should end by like reason. For in the
express wil and word of God it hath no such root and
ground, as to you it appeareth, following and cleaving more
to the consent of the Church than to the words of Scripture,
or to any reason drawn out of the same. Wherin I won-
der much at your simplicity, to think that the consent of
the Church maketh things necessary to salvation. For
hereby you might confirm al the rites and customes of the
Church used from the beginning, to be grounds of our
faith, and of necessity to be received to our salvation. For
by one consent many of them have been approved this
thousand years, I think, and more. Wherfore by your
ground the alteration of any one of them shal cause separa-
tion fi'om the unity of Christs Church. The which to af-
firm, I trow, be an extreme raadnes. And so tho the Bp.
of Rome hath been head of al Bishops this 500 years, c&n-
sensu totiusjere. Ecclesice occidentalis ; yet, I suppose, that
this consent can no more make him Caput univeisalis Ec-
desicBy than the consent of us in England hath made the Bp.
of Canterbury to be the Head and Primate of all other
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193 Bishops with us, by Gods law. The which primacy, I think,
you judg not to be grounded in Gods word. But even as
this primacy, for an order of synods and councels among
us, was by man devised ; so was the primacy of Rome, by
man ordered and invented at such time as a councel general
of al Christian nations was first convocate and assembled.
Wherfore by this reason 1 wil as wel confirm the one, as you
shal the other.
And as touching places of Scripture, wherby you confirm
the primacy, you follow the vulgar train of the latter Doctors,
which violently draw them to the setting forth of the see
of Rome : forgeting the purpose of the antient Doctors of
our religion. The which exalting sedein Romanam et ca-
thedram Petri, ever meant therby fdem, quoe Petrus prcB
ccBteris prqfessiis est, et RomcB docuit : and for because the
faith of Christ there took most notable increase, and from
thence was derived to the west parts of the world: ther-
fore was thither in al doubts chief recourse, and that see
was most praised and preferred above others, as a place of
counsil, and not of higher power and authority. This testi-
fieth Jerome, Cyprian, with al the antiquity. But I wil not
now further enter to dispute. Howbeit I cannot but mer-
vail, how you could (letting these things fal out of your con-
sideration) suffer your self to be blinded by such simple and
slender grounds, neither rooted in Scripture, nor reason de-
duced of the same. But run out with tragical exclamations
against the Prince, as though he were a Turk, because he
taketh upon him to be Head of the Church of England.
Wherin also you deceive your self by a false ground won-
derfully. For in the comparing of the office of a prince
and of a bishop together, you appoint the prince to the cure
of civil things and worldly alone ; leaving Christs doctrine
to the bishops only ; as tho the prince were no Christen
man. You consider not, how the office of a Christian prince
is to build al his policy upon Gods word, directing al his
actions to the setting forth of his glory ; and is a minister of
Gods word no less than the bp., and rather more, to say
truly. For wheras the bp. hath no further power by the
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vertue of the Gospel, but only to exhort men to follow the
same diligently, the prince may not only exhort, but also
compel his subjects, to the order of Christs doctrin, vio-
lently.
Wherfore when I read your slanderous and abhominable
words against our Prince in this behalf, as tho he liad sub-
verted, Iby tliis title, al the whole order of Christs law, pre-
ferring worldly things above spiritual; I judged you either
to be mad or frantick, forgetting to whom you wrot ; so to
slander your Prince most unkindly ; or very ignorant, which
could not consider, how that a Christen prince, by his very
office and duty, hath not only cure and charge and oversight
of things pertaining to the worldly life and civil order, but
also of the heavenly doctrin and spiritual policy. For in the
joyning of these two lives together, which you seem to sepa-
rate, stondeth the chief point of true Christian civility. And
blinded they be, which judge in Christendome to be binas
quasdam poUtias : wherin as bps. reign in one, so do
princes in the other. This division deceiveth many one.
For in Christs religion there is no siich necessary distinction.
For albeit that I think it nothing convenient, that a pnnce
should exercise the office of a bp., but leave that to his sub-
jects, which profess themselves therto; nor meet it is that a \^i
bp. should exercise the office of a prince, but wholly to be
intent to the setting forth of the truth of Gods word : yet
I se no such repugnance nor contrariety in this matter by
the law of God, but that a bp. might be a pi-ince, and a
prince a bishop, as you know it was in the old time before
Christs coming. And at the least this I dare boldly affirm,
that it is nothing against Gods word, a Christen prince to
take upon him, as an head of the common wealth, to over-
see his bps., and to procure that they do execute their office
truly. The which thing only our Prince, Master Pole,
taketh upon him by his new title, the which you so abhor
by your folly.
So that al your sharp words used in this matter, contrary
to your masters honor, declare in you a marvellous blind,
and a corrupt judgment, with wonderful ingratitude to-
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wards your Prince and country. Wherof, Master Pole,
what sorrow I have conceived, if I should here be about to
open unto you, I should, I think, labour in vain, and of you,
peradventure, be little believed. Howbeit yet this I wil
say, that few there be among al your lovers and friends,
which are privy of your judgment, (tho I promise you they
al sore lament,) that hath conceived more sorrow than I
have. For besides the private bands of love, wherby I have
been long above others knit imto your friendship, I have
openly, sith I came home, at sundry times so praised your
learning and judgment, not only to our Prince, but to many
others, which therof were not fully persuaded, that now, the
contrary being shewed, my sorrow above others is much en-
creased; yea, and al such hopes, which I had of your
vertues, almost vanished away. , The which I assure you,
for our friendship, grieveth me sore. For ever as methoughts
I saw in you a desire to the ensearching of the truth and
verity, so such constant love towards your Prince and coun-
try, that I could not but think that these vertues (which I
esteemed to be in you) should at the last bring forth some
noble fruit to the honor of your Prince, and to the ornament
of our country. This hope I had, wherwith, I testify God,
I comforted my self as much as I did with few other worldly
things.
And this. Master Pole, was not my hope only, but it was
common to many other, your lovers and friends, which
knew you beside me. Wherfore what sorrow both they
and I have taken, by the drowning of this our hope, sith
we have perceived, how that by a foolish ground, foolishly
of you conceived, you have turned al your learning and elo-
quence to the dishonoring of your master, slandering of
your country, and, which is most of al, to the obscin-ing of
the truth ; I shal leave. Master Pole, to your consideration,
because my pen serveth me not to express the thing fully.
And thus I shal - - - requiring you by that infinite love,
which you say you bear towards your Prince and country,
to consider the matter with your self a little more groundly.
And to cal to remembrance vet once again a little more di-
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ligently the tenor of your coniniission : which was, " that
*' you should, al worldly respects set aside, and al danger-
" ous success, which might succede of the same, ponder the
" nature of the tiling indifferently ;" and then, I doubt not,
but that you shal yet see how far wide from the matter you
have shapen your oration, which have here right slenderly
touched the ground of the matter, filled your book with la- 195
mentable complaints of false grounds conceived : as, that we
be slipped from the unity of the Church ; that we be here-
tics; that we unworthily put to death the best men in the
realm. Upon these grounds moved, you make marvellous
digressions, ful of venomous words and great vehemency ;
as tho they were as true as any word in the Gospel : the
which be al false ; and by light credit of you believed.
For nother we be slipt from Christian unity, which depend
upon our Head Christ, coupled together by perfect love,
faith, and charity : nother we be infected, as you think, with
heresy, which stond in al the grounds of Scripture stedfastly :
nother yet have unworthily put to death the best men of
our realm, tho More, Rochester, and Raynolds, with divers
others, suffered by their own folly. Which dyed nother for
their vertues, nor for the profession of any such matter,
which pertaineth to Christ's glory ; but only for the super-
stitious defence of that thing, for the which, I think, here-
after never wise man wil do ; and I would to God they also
might have been induced, as the goodnes of the Prince
greatly desired, to leave their foolish and superstitious ob-
stinacy. Whose example, as I perceive, hath also blinded
you as much, peradventure, as any one thing besides, and
caused you to fal into this abhominable rayling against your
Princes actys ingratfuUy.
But, Master Pole, lift your eyes a little higher in this
matter, and regard the order of the primitive Church at the
beginning. Wherin you shal find, contrary to these mens
judgments, that Rome never had the primacy of the uni-
versal Church through the world, but from Constantines
time only it hath beginning. And have not your eyes so
much fixed to the trade of the Church in these latter dayes,
VOL. I. PART II. u
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and to the sentence of these latter men, which have drawn
Scripture therto violently. That which if you had done,
and prudently compared the one time with the other, I
think you could never have run so headlong to this extreme
sentence, and never should have stond so stiff in the defence
of that which in Gods word hath no sure ground. But
you have shewed your self. Master Pole, to be led prcyudi-
ciis ; and by the example of them, which were in the world
in great reputation, you have suffered your heart to be
over-run with affection. The which is plain by the vehe-
ment lamentation which you make of the death of those
men, which foolishly did chuse rather to dy than to live in
their country delivered from the Popes cloaked tyranny.
Methought, when I read that part of your oration, I saw
your heart so opprest with sorrow, that you considered not
wel wliat you said. Yea, al the process of your oration,
methought you forgot to whom you spake and directed
your oration ; tho you oftimes called him Prince, you re-
membred not, I think, how that he was your Soveraign
Lord and Master, which hath confirmed to you such in-
comparable benefits, as hitherto don to no other of his sub-
jects. You never considered, how that he is a Prince of high
judgment and great experience. You never set before your
eyes his princely stomac and noble courage. For if you
had, I can never think that ever you could have showed
such detestable ingratitude, nor have ever been so blinded
with affection, as to think that by your words and sudden
196 oration, you might induce such a King to abrogate al such
actys and deeds, before don with mature counsil and de-
liberation, with such railing, and declaring so corrupt a
judgment by affection, to move a Prince from his stabled
purpose. Then you were plain mad and frantic. And espe-
cially now at this time, when al things were settled in quiet-
ness: that woman being taken away by the providence of
God, by whom was feared of wise men much trouble and
adversity. For at such time as your book was brought to
the King, I promise you al men rejoyced in the present
state, putting the Pope in utter oblivion. There was of him
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here no regard or mention, but al things brought to good
order with conformitie.
Alas ! Master Pole, what lack of learning and prudence
was this, so corruptly to judg the matter; without all re-
spect of time and person, so foolishly it to handle ? For if
you had but considered a little your own person, how much
you are above al others bounden to our Prince for your edu-
cation, you could never have distorned your wit and elo-
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