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Thursday Discussion

Separation of Real-Environment Signals Conduct a new version Test1 using “MUSHRA-like” methodology. Seven “knob-settings” representing the separation quality balance will be presented to the listener. A slightly modified version of Test2 (with respect to the NEC contribution document) will be conducted. The exact procedure and timeline for both tests will be documented in a workplan.

Rendering Presets

It was the consensus of the Audio Subgroup to make this technology normative and to use the syntax proposed in m15354.

The group expects further information at the next meeting on


  • dynamic presets and, as a related topic, the level of compression required for presets.

  • Possible preset formats for “file-based” storage for e.g. decoder-side storage.

MCU Minor Technical Changes

This proposed change will not progress at this meeting. Additional information will be provided at the next meeting.



Other discussion

The group expects further information at the next meeting on



  • Stability of parameter calculations in TTT box as used in SAOC to MPEG Surround transcoder in the case of stereo downmix mode.

  • Additional modes of operation (see m15353), with regard to how to organize the functionality within the current architecture.

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