I think if you want to have a change from BA, it is worth going and spending some time on the beach but perhaps not worth it for mongering purposes only. The main venue is Madaho and there are just a few gems here so if these are taken, you are out of luck for the evening ! This is a small venue so it is best not to expect too much. Of course, there are other sources such as the classifieds (I did not try these).
I stayed at the Costa Galana - excellent rooms but variable service.
Kava
02-07-03 15:57
What's going on in MDP? Anybody banging local chicas???
High on Hobbyin
02-12-03 19:13
I´m here now. Weather cloudy and humid. Madahos is apparently the upscale place to go as a chica told me there are other places but Madahos is the place to be in MDP. Had Roxana last night. Local girl from MDP very attractive, great figure, D cup, eyes and voice remind me of Salma Hayek. Negatives: not open experimentation, is still nursing so here breasts are totally off limits, kept trying to spend my money, got to the room and insisted on paying first, was too tired to go on after first round, kept asking if it was ok to leave early. Not a repeater.
On MDP itself, I´m told that by March the number of ladies in Madahos will decrease dramatically. The high season will be over and they will return to there hometowns or winter bases of operations. Currently there were about 30 present, lots of 6´s, 7´s, 8´s and a few 9-10´s
Hope this helps. Time to get back to the life.
HOH
LA Larry
02-13-03 12:25
hefe--
i've posted a bunch about mdp and how much i enjoy it.
here's my take.
if you are a hardcore monger--then stay in ba or go to rio.
but if you are interested in exploring Argentina--Mar Del Plata provides a truly fun weekend escape (I stayed over 2 weeks last time!)
I find the people in MDP extremely friendly and I relished the chance to gain a perspective of life outside of BA.
There are many acceptable hotties 6,7,8s at Madahos. (And if you get there by 10-11pm, you will ensure your success of scoring the best the place has to offer).
The great South Beaches of MDP are littered with fantastic looking girls. NOT as I imagine RIO to be, but more like Laguna beach in California or Malibu.
The hotels arevery affordable. (Stat at the Manantiales and ask for a 1 bedroom suite on a high floor facing the sea)
If you expecting Cannes or St. Tropez, you need to set your expectations much lower. (In that case, visit Punte Del Este in Uruguay. Very nouveau riche there.)
Mar Del Plata is middle class all the way to its finger tips.
My advice of several months ago still holds true--
If you have 2 weeks in Argentina, i suggest hopping down for 2 or 3 days. Catch some sun, relax, play golf, make friends--the Recoletta monger campaign becomes a tad tedious after 10 straight nights, after all.
High on Hobbyin
02-14-03 11:28
I agree with LALarry. MDP is a great place to explore the culture of Argentina. I've made friends with the owner of a pizza shop and met the cousin (from Chicago) of the owner of a local desert & ice cream shop. It's so bizzare to see all the 'company representatives' at night. By this I mean the Budweiser, Coors and Miller girls that used to go around to bars to promote their product. Well here they do it for Kodak, Cellular service, phone cards and Pepsi on the street at night. I´ve also been approached by the TWIX girls in a local bar. I have also noticed that not speaking Spanish or being from the US is a definite negative. I´ve come across this a few times. Most recently at a great disco "Sobremonte" on Constitucion. I think it's more the US thing. Also I'm constantly being talked about behind my back... being of asian decent I stick out like a sore thump. Here and in Rio. It's like having the word Rich Sucker stamped on your forehead for almost everything. I personally don´t like it because I prefer to remain low key. If you're of asian decent and a little more outgoing, then by all means play it up and try to use it to your advantage.
One thing you should know. MDP is a summer resort town. It gets cold here in the winter (June, July, and August) down to nearly 0 celcius I'm told. Also my friend with the Pizza shop says that Alem street dies in the winter, so he closes shop for the season and goes on holiday. I'm not sure how many others do so, but I was told by my friend at the Ice cream shop that most of the income for the Alem street merchants is made from late November through early March. This year traffic slowed heavily in February. By the way, Mayri set me up in the Costa Galana. It's across the street from the beach, two blocks downhill of Alem Street and about 8 blocks to Madahos (Up to blocks to Alem. Left on Alem for 6 blocks). I've walked to Madahos and back with no problem. To Constitucion - 15 minutes across town but under AR$10
LA Larry
04-14-03 21:19
Hey Everyone--
Long time no posts....Have been working like a fiend in mother Russia.
I am on the ground and will be reporting about MDP.
Peace.
LA Larry
04-15-03 01:24
Okay....
If you go back and read my posts about MDP, I have been cautious about over-selling this place, basically saying that BA has a much bigger chica-to-monger ratio which is still true.
However-I gotta a really say boys that on the last two nights in Madahos--I counted over 40 chicas on one night and over 55 chicas on the other night.
The majority of chicas are very sexy looking--average girls--I'd say that they rate on average as 6s. There really are no horror shows. And there are not any perfect 10s like I've seen once in a while a year ago. And yet there are several 7s and 8s. At least ten girls are solid 7s.
The 100 peso rate for Short time (a couple of hours) back in your hotel still applies.
Moreover, the chicas in MDP are much nicer than BA. That is not just my opinion, its a fact. I've spoken with several mongers down here and eveyone concurs. On the whole--you get a more laid back experience here.
The girls in MDP are much more likely to want to connect with a monger staying in a nice hotel. In BA--more and more--it seems too professional a transaction. Not a terrible problem. But not as friendly as MDP.
So--
Come here for the weekend and see for yourself. Its still very safe. There are still loads of chicas on the program. And loads of newspaper girls.
The reason why I keep coming back here is that I always see around ten program girls that I want to nail but for some reason they elude me.
I was thrilled to find an incredible chica with 34DD, 21 years old with smoking hot AAA stripper body that most would rate as a 10.
and a sexy tan face.
I saw her on my last trip but was with a different chica and then I never saw her again on that trip. She reminds me of an Italian babe I used to plank in NJ back in the 1980s. An Italian princess I used to call that one.
So this time (two nights ago) I rolled into Madahos and she was there! I grabbed her immediately and took her back for a three hour session (200 pesos plus 50 peso tip)
Received great BBBJTC and the completion was on her beautiful face. A full blown GFE in every aspect except that she has a boyfriend already and called him on her cell.
Last night I took a chica home and she offered to call her younger chica up for a three-some.
The girl arrived an hour later (after round 1 with older sis) and the girl walks in and very obviously was NOT her blood sister.
Fine with me.
Received a fantasy hum job, sans preservitivo, from both chicas.
The hole night cost me 360 pesos total! For some four hours of fun.
Truly, you couldn't buy service like this in LA.
Yes--you can buy two chicas in LA, but they would never be of the same quality, and they would never provide steller service.
Last night would have cost $800 bucks or more in the states.
Viva South America!!!
Guillermo
04-15-03 02:13
LA Larry,
Dobro Pozhalovat! (as they say in mother Russia).
I'm planning on being in BA at the end of June. Am I correct in assuming that it would be completely pointless to waste my time in MDP in the middle of winter?
Thanks,
Guillermo
LA Larry
04-15-03 11:00
Guillermo--
I would generally say: Don't come to MDP in the Argentine winter--only if you have a three week stay or longer in Buenos Aires.
The typical monger vacationing in Argentina will be presented a smorgosbord of santch in Buenos Aires. And therefore, have no real reason to head further South for something that already exists in BA.
The winter in MDP would be rather boring for most.
Although, I will say that Mar Del Plata is a vibrant city--year round and that there are always progam chicas available. I know this for certain--I now have several friends here and Madahos is open 12 months a year and the chica numbers stay pretty stable (despite a slight fall off for three months). But--make no mistake--the weather is actually colder and windier in MDP than BA in the winter--so why bother?
However, to continue playing both sides of the net, If you are like me: 21 straight days of going to monger bars in Recoleta and Downtown BA gets a tad repetitive.
I really enjoy breaking up my BA stays with sojourns to the south. In a few days I am going to bring my novia (a non-pro chica I met in MDP several months back) down to Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego.
You only live once. See as much of the planet as possible.
Kava
04-25-03 19:01
I can't wait for the next summer in MDP to fuck those round-ass chicas at Madeho's. I wanna try 3some next time.
Andres
04-28-03 21:19
I read in another forum that there is a "private apartment" in MDP with pretty, young and inexpensive girls:
HOTEL VIP
CHACABUCO 3815
0223 4722300
MAR DEL PLATA
It was commented that the girls ask ar$50 for 30 minutes and provide complete service for ar$20 more.
Hope this helps,
Andres
High on Hobbyin
05-09-03 03:27
FYI
Just in case you're in Mar del Plata and want to find Madaho's.
I found a Madaho's website a few months back with both addresses and phone numbers.
http://www.madahos.com/home_e.html
Also there is another club along the Madahos line in Mar del Plata. It's been months since I was there but I was enroute from the Costa Galana Hotel for a site seeing tour of all the popular discos on Ave. Constitucion. I believe it was on a street that over looked the sea but from a slight distance. I believe it was between the club, Jazz and the casino. The road did a quick left then right. On the left you'll see a neon sign that implied the type of club it is... My cab driver confirmed that it was similar to Madaho's, but that Madaho's is the best in town. Oh and if you're into shemales, lots of pretty ones on the street ... enough to fool you while driving by in a cab! I think this area is near the train station.
Maddur
05-13-03 18:43
Andresg,
Thanks. I am wondering if this Hotel VIP is operational in July (peak winter). I am planning a trip to BA - just thinking about a two day side trip to MDP.
Andres
05-13-03 21:17
Quote:
Originally posted by maddur
Andresg,
Thanks. I am wondering if this Hotel VIP is operational in July (peak winter). I am planning a trip to BA - just thinking about a two day side trip to MDP.
I don't know.
Bring a good coat since MDP in July gets really cold (at least for BA standards)
Andres
Maddur
07-09-03 23:18
Happy to report that MDP is alive and kicking in winter. Just spent 3 days there. The number of chicas were down in Madahos (around 10 or so) and most of them were 5 or 6. BsAs is a better place in winter IMHO. But if you are staying for more than 3 weeks in BA, you can break the monotony by making a quick 2 day trip to MDP.
LA Larry
07-27-03 23:46
I am a little surprised that more mongers don't venture south to MDP. I have been to this little hidden jewel about 6 times in the last two years.
There are chicas here year round. Nothing on the scale or scope of BA, but more than enough to keep you busy.
Furthermore, there are a hell of lot less mongers down these parts. So all non-Argentinos are treated like royalty by the chicas.
Wonder why Dickhead or any of the more prominent players on the Argentina frontlines haven't made it this far.
To my mind, its the final outpost before the continent trails off onto the end of the world....
Very special place!
For statistics--
In approximately--60 total days spent in MDP, I have bedded down easily 45 girls (some repeats, some pros that turned into GFE (no cash on subsequent dates; and 1 legitimate GF who was never in the game and is totally a non-pro).
Everyone of these chicas were as good as what I would find on a typical night in BA; and the newspaper girls down here, IMHO are younger and less professionals than their BA big sisters.
100 pesos still gets you a short time with a chica from Madahos. 200 pesos gets you TLN.
I'm on a plane tonight, but dread the thought of returning to lousy Moscow.
By the way--where the heck is the famous Saint?
OutoftheGame
07-28-03 02:35
LA LARRY,
I think most mongers are so overwhelmed by BA they can't think of living the city and might be afraid to go to MDP. I also believe that this time of year with the weather being cold it doesn't enter into my mindd to go to the beach. I spent 4 days in MDP on my trip in Feb. and I think the best part of my whole trip was spent in MDP. The only thing is that I took my entertainment with me so I never tried Madaho's. As far as DH going to MDP I think he's on a tight budget and would prefer to save his money and try to find the ultimate cheap working girl in BA.
It's funny that you asked about Saint, I was wondering what happened to you. I know your stuck in Moscow now but figured you'd still be visiting BA as often as you could. I think Saint has limited all of his knowledge on another website and doesn't have time for us anymore. I do miss his stories. Or his job finally told him that he actually has to work and has to take a break from traveling all over the world banging women.
Hope you stay in touch and maybe some guys will strart visiting MDP in the next few months.
LA Larry
07-28-03 13:19
Hey Out of the Game--
Had been out of the game myself for awhile, under piles of work. My transfer to Eastern / Central Europe has been a real catastrophe. I am one who really doesn't like the women of Russian and Central Europe. They are cold fish who do not truly enjoy themselves.
I realize that that is a gross generalization, but after traveling and mongering pretty much the world over (haven't been to Brazil yet! Haven't done Manilla!) I can say with great confidence that the two best mongering experiences are to be had wth South American chicas and in Thailand.
I am perpetually shocked how the girls of Russia smile and seduce all the way up to the bedroom and then behave like clock watching American escorts. Awful compared to Argentina girls!
Years ago--back in the early 90s Prague and Moscow had some great finds. Now (compared to the glory days) its become as cold=blooded as New York City--truly awful. And goddamned expensive).
It blows my mind that people actually enjoy that European scene.
Anyway--since this is the MDP board, I will contain myself to the following MDP report that happened a few nights back.
I met an incredible girl at an Italian resturant in MDP. Really it was just a kind of buffet style place, similar to Sbarros in the states. Anyway, I went in to the restaurant and ordered some pasta. Opened my book (Bangkok 8 by John Burdett).
Suddenly, I notice this blonde eating alone. Talking on her cell phone. Every so often, she can't help to stare over at me. Now its obvious to me that she's on the program. She appeared like a chica that was having a meal before heading off to a club to work.
Very, very large breasts. DDs. Curly Hair down to her shoulders and around 23 years old.
After a while she gets off the phone and points at my book (which has a colorful cover of Bangkok's Pat Pong district; its a crime story, not a monger guidebook) She thinks its ver beautiful.
I take my coffee and join her. We begin talking.
Tells me in no uncertain terms that she is on the program--used to work at Madhajos; quit because of school).
We end up back in my favorite hotel "The Manantiales" and proceed to have GFE sex for several hours. My one regret was that I couldn't convince her to give up her ass. She kept saying, not now, mi amor" But otherwise, it was total pornstar sex. Incredible BBBJTC all over her face....3 collosal nuts busted. Several condoms later the sun began to rise. Her cell phone rang. She hops out of la cama and begins pleading with me to go dancing with her and her amigas--some after hour joint still open.
There aint a chance in hell I'm going dancing at 6 on a frosty morning. (The wind was howling like crazy!) So I make a move to pay her and she says, "Pay me tonight, when I come over so you can fuck my ass. She then begins to DFK and she whispers that I must promise her that I would fuck her ass very hard. And show her no mercy.
Right then I began to get hard again. And she drops to her knees and begins deep throating my cock. For ten solid, sloppy saliva minutes. But there there was no way I was going to cum. So I told her to save her energy for tonight.
She leaves. WITHOUT TAKING ANYMONEY!!! I crash back to sleep for several hours. Wake up at 1pm. Shower. Go into the city and chow. Then return to my room and take a long nap until 5pm.
At which point--the phone rings. Its her again. She just woke up. The first thing she wants to confirm is that she can't wait to give me her cola.
Again--right there--i get full fucking wood like a 16 year old boy. (well maybe the 3AM tab of 100mg of viagra still is in effect).
To sum up, she arrives at 10pm. I proceed to sodomize her full strength--like Rocco Siffredi---she spends the night again, fucking and sucking my dick as if the fate of the entire world depended on it. She truly enjoyed herself. There's no way this could be an act. (I've been with a slew of Russian actresses). This chica was a full blown nypho.
The following morning. I groggily tell her that I have some cash in my drawer and that she should just take whatever amount she thinks is fair.
She showers. Gets dressed. Asks me where the drawer is. (I had about 600 pesos in hundred peso notes in the drawer and If she had taken it all, I would have been happy about it).
She took two hundred pesos. Came back to bed before she left. And began deep throating my sleeping cock again. Not a "good bye" kiss bj. But another 20 minute DEEP THROAT porn star blow job that miraculously resulted in my blowing another nut which she swallowed whole.
And then said "American breakfast"
THIS IS WHY I FLY HALF WAY AROUND THE GLOBE TO WINTER IN MDP!!!!
In the words of the dearly departed Saint==
"Life is good"
OutoftheGame
07-28-03 13:45
LA LARRY,
That was a great report, so if she no longer is working at a club how does she get business. I think you should of gone out that morning for dancing. Hell you only live once and I'm sure she would of kept you very warm.
I remember on my trip to MDP we went out dancing and on the way back to the hotel my girl told the taxi driver to drop us off at a beach by the old aqurium. She wanted to watch the sunrise. It was cold and windy, so my buddy and his girl didn't want to go. Well since we all had hung out my girl didn't want to break up the group so we went back to the hotel. I was so pissed, I could just imagine lying on the sand having some great sex while the sun comes up.
Surfer
07-28-03 23:55
Jesus Larry, reading your anecdote almost got me to consider Argentina in the same breath as Colombia & Brasil, almost. I TOTALLY relate to your comments regarding traveling across the World during summer in search of winter (for the chicas).
As a Surfer, MDP has long been on my radar and offseason is the time of big waves and small crowds (I KNOW it is cold but I live & surf Northern California in winter so . . .). But I was under the impression (misimpression) that chica scene was deadsville too during the Austral winter. HMMM. Was thinking about transiting Rio (AGAIN) on the way to snowboarding in Portillo, Chile, but Bariloche & Las Lenas are intriguing as well (and Chile now charges US citizens $100 for entry-same as we charge them to apply for US visas). BA, MDP & Bariloche sounds like an appealing winter trip if there is some action (or if you'd share that blonde's phone number, I'd trade SEVERAL numbers of hotties I know in Rio or Cali for it). Email me @ XTNsurfer@hotmail.com.
Jaimito Cartero
07-29-03 03:53
LA Larry, excellent report. It's great to see some nice gems in out of the way places talked about. Sometimes it seems that people don't want to tell about their "secrets", and how can we find out these cool places/chicas?
How far is MDP from BA? Bus, train, plane?
OutoftheGame
07-29-03 05:45
JC,
MDP is 5 hours by train and about 45 min by plane. I don't know the cost by train but a plane ticket is around $160 pesos. Unless you have alot of time to kill I would take the plane. Flights depart everyday and you leave out of the airport right in the city not EZE so it is very quick and not croweded.
Maddur
08-03-03 12:49
JC,
I took the bus to MDP this time just for the experience - was not bad at all (though 5 hours is a little long). The buses are very comfortable and the cost one way is around 40 pesos. It is usually a double decker bus and if you sit on the top front, you can take in the pampas in all its glory !
LA Larry
08-03-03 14:45
Please allow me to set the record straight about travel from BA to MDP.
Please, please, please follow my advice and NEVER take the train. The service is awful and extremely unreliable. The cars are not air conditioned, they are filthy and the trip is rarely 5 hours but closer to 7...The train will make interminable hour long stops in the middle of the pampas. And you will gaze furiously out the window at cows whilst giant flies buzz about your head. I am not exagerating when I say that the trip will remind you of what it must have felt like to be aboard the very first trains a hundred and thirty years ago.
In a word, the train to MDP sucks balls.
If you wanna see the pampas (which couldn't be any less scenic or tedious after 45 seconds you've seen enough of the pampas you over for life) Yes, I have taken the Bus a few times. Its comfortable and modern, but boring as hell.
Best bet is to fly. takes no more than 45 minutes. Sexy flight attendents serve you a coke and then you land.
15 minutes later you'll be checking into your hotel (the MDP airport is smaller than the Long Beach, CA airport).
Think of this way--5 hours in transit is a couple of sessions with a chica.
Life is too short to spend on the pampas.
OttoGraham
08-03-03 15:21
Thanks for the info about the train, Larry. I resolve never to take the train to MDP.
OTOH, if I were you I wouldn't paint with such a broad brush when condemning the bus. Maddur obviously enjoyed his trip, and others, such as myself, might be interested in seeing what Argentina looks like outside the bright lights and big city.
It's like a lot of things in this hobby - YMMV.
-Uncle Otto
P.S. And man, I really disagree with you about Russkie chicks. Some of my best sex ever has been with Russkie ex-girlfriends.
Jaimito Cartero
08-03-03 20:00
Well, I've been on some very slow trains in my life. When the train was still running in Costa Rica in the late 80's, I went out to the Atlantic coast. I think it took about 4 hours to go 80 miles or so. Wasn't too bad, as long as you're not in a hurry. Plus there are usually food/drink vendors who hop on or off.
I think I might take the bus, just to say I've actually SEEN some of Argentina. I've taken the bus two times this year from San Jose, CR to Managua, Nicaragua. Nice bus, and other than going over the border, pretty enjoyable. About 10 hours each way, so 5 hours doesn't sound so bad.
Doc Bill
08-03-03 20:42
Hey guys, I will be in BsAs for my first time in Sept. for about nine days. Should I take a side trip to MDP or with only that amount of time just stay in BsAs. Thanks for any feedback!
LA Larry
08-03-03 23:56
Otto--
You are right. YMMV on the bus thing. Perhaps its worth doing once--to get out of your system.
Regarding the Rushkies--they have become (generally speaking) the most mercenary lot in all of mongering. The Russian girls in Moscow are 1000% colder than the girls in Blacks (BA).
Jaimito--trust me--the damn train is squalid. You will feel like hell after disembarking. The only reason to suffer on the train is that its cheaper than shit. First Class last March was only 25 pesos. But then to me, First Class was like a box car with old seats riveted to the floor. DEPLORABLE.
Doc Bill--
Depends on the kinda man you are. If you are in Argentina solely for the mongering seen. And you only have 9 days. Probably you should hunker down in Recoleta and screw to your hearts content.
But if you are also a tourist--I highly recommed flying down for two nights. Stay at either the Sheraton Hotel or my favorite Apartment Hotel The Manantiales. (Spectacular view, terraced one bedroom apartments).
Monger at the one spot--Madajos.
Enjoy the wonderful commercial section of MDP.
Scroll way back and read my effusive posts from last year.
My opinion has not changed. Love MDP, love the people, the cabbies, the hotel clerks, and most of all the chicas.
PS. the beach and the thunderstorms are terrifyingly awesome and beautiful. Many an evening, I've brought a young and lovely girl or two back to my perch atop the Manantiales and watched the sun rise.
Very differnt vibe that BA.
Enjoy all!
OttoGraham
08-04-03 10:02
Larry,
If you're stuck in Moscow now, it sounds like you need to stop being a monger and start being a normal Russkie fellow. Get yourself two or three Russkie girlfriends. You will not lack for hot quality sex, thats for sure. And better to have two or three, because that way you'll see them only so often, and not every day, so their unpleasant out-of-bed traits will not be around to bother you as much. And when it comes down to it, they don't mind if they're not the only one - as a group they're much more interested in being taken care of by a strong man than they are interested in being the only woman. I know this from personal experience! ;)
-Uncle Otto
OttoGraham
08-04-03 10:07
Doc Bill,
If it's your first trip, I would recommend not leaving the area around Buenos Aires. There is plenty to do that will fill those days completely. If you're looking for different experiences, try these three:
1) A day in the river delta by Tigre.
2) A day at the San Isidro horse track, going first class of course.
3) A night or two at a estancia (ranch) outside of town.
Mayra or Roxana should be able to point you in the right direction of these things. If you find a nice girl, you doubtless will be able to convince her to go with you on these outings for minimal or no cost.
-Uncle Otto
PS: And please don't be like 90% of guys here and simply disappear without a word when your trip is over. Tell us about what you did and what you saw.
Doc Bill
08-04-03 14:07
Thanks Uncle & others! I've been in touch with Mayra and she seems very helpful. I understand Roxanna is just for help with the girls, but since I speak Spanish I don't know why I would need her.
And Uncle, don't worry, I will be writing in lurid detail on this board about my trip (and the Brazil board since I will be there as well). I am so grateful for all the good advice I've gotten here, and I'm a strong believer in giving back what has been freely given me.
I'll be in BsAs Sept. 17-26, in case anyone else will be there and wants to hook up.
Thanks again, all!
Gladiator
08-29-03 16:32
When does MDP start to get busy? Would November be a good time to enjoy it?
Besides the working girls, are there also good hunting grounds for non-pros or semi-pros? Is the nightlife (discos, bars, etc) in the non-pro world limited to the weekends or are weekdays fine too?
Thanks in advance,
LA Larry
08-29-03 17:23
Gladiator--
November can be nice in MDP. December January are warmer and is the prime time for middle class argentinos to hit MDP for summer vacation (can get very crowded!)
Re: non-pros, that's a tough call and depends entirely on your own seducer skills in the non-pro arena.
I've had great luck. Met a very sexy non-pro in a gym, and have never given her a nickle. (Although, have been generous with dinners, drinks, occasional gifts. But our relationship is similar to the normal kind of relationship you would have with an American woman).
Otherwise, to be honest, its not incredibly easy to score non-pros in MDP--the same way its easy to score non-pros in a place like Santo Domingo where it seems that every girl is potentially available. Regular hotties will not go out of their way to wink at you in the street. And if you expecting that--then you will be extremely disappointed by MDP.
RE: Clubs... There are lots of clubs/lounges and bars in the same area as the best pro bar in the area (Madajos). You will find some incredible, hot young things in those places. But, at my age (mid 40s) I am shit out of luck. And to be fair to myself, the hotties in those clubs are not thirld world mothers, but college coeds from upper middle class families looking to find boyfriends from similar backgrounds. So many of these argentina chicas have tremendous class and elan. I've seen blondies that strike me as more beautiful than German ice-goddesses. (And you will never see them selling their asses in Madajos or in the newspaper ads).
Be that as it may, if you can operate a ilttle, MDP can be a real blast. People are so nice. The city is so relaxed and beatifully run-down. It feels a little like stepping back into the 1950s.
I love MDP so much, I am renting an apartment there from December 18th-January 14th.
I will try to update the forum with links, info, etc.
(still very surprising to me, that more mongers don't chance a trip down for a weekend)
Happy trails--
Carpediem
01-08-04 19:15
Hello,
Is there any recent update about the points of interest in Mar del Plata? Not many postings in this group... guess everybody is busy :)
If anybody wants to join forces this weekend, let me know!
Mickey Mouse
01-09-04 17:49
LA Larry,
I will be arriving on Monday for 2 nights to check out MDP for a future extended visit. Any recommendations (Restaurants, Chica Clubs etc) would be appreciated. I have a pass for Madahos, but that is all I am familiar with.
MM
Carpediem
01-11-04 09:43
Here is a short report about Mar del Plata.
Madahos (newly renovated) is a place to go, and with a choice of chicas there, I don't see a reason to go anywhere elase. That place is steaming hot with probably 100 ladies in a small space. Ratio f/m is at least 2/1 which is of course grate for m. The girls are very friendly, not pushy at all and perhaps even more pleasant than in BsAs. Asking rate is $150 hour, which appears not to be really negotiable, at least before 3am. However, $200 for two hours or $250-300 TLN is easy to negotiate. There is a 1-2 drink penalty as usual.
There are many very good looking girls there. I have spend some time with two of them, Mariela and Karen. The latter in particular is strongly recommended - dark hottie from Dom. Rep. - beautiful face and nice body. Very friendly. Got nice dfk, bbbj, sex from both, bbbjtc from Mariela (slightly overweight brunette with nice face and long hair). To avoid problems you may want to discuss oral or other issues before, not during.
On a down side, most of the chicas there speak very little english, and even if they do they tried to avoid it. Good for my castellano though.
Hotel, - I stayed in Madahos booked through Mayra at argentinago. I didni't have time to look for anything myself, although Madahos was a bit steep at the rate of about U$S 100 per day. Beautiful full sea view from 28th floor though!
Mickey Mouse
01-12-04 13:16
I have been here for 4 hrs so far and here´s the scoop: I had reservations at the Primacy in town and I was disappointed even though the rate was good, so into a cab and off to the Sheraton for better arrangements at steeper prices. The Sheraton doorman tells us (my wingman Stormy is still with me) that Madaho has been closed for 15 days for renovation and hasn´t reopened yet (shock). A quick stroll by for verification and I did see somone working on the place. Now what? I can assure you I will reconfirm tonight and if Madaho is still closed I will be searching for an alternative somewhere. or I will be walking back to BA ahead of schedule.
The Sheraton seems to be the right place and in a nice area. I had my hotel manager in BA make the initial booking which turned out to be a mistake, but no problem making the switch.
Wish us luck tonight,
MM
LA Larry
01-12-04 13:39
Mickey--
That sucks about Madahos being closed.
Don't be shy about asking the concierge about Chica Bars. I also would explain my predicament to cab drivers. Apparently there is another decent place about ten minutes cab ride from the center of the city (I have never been, because Mad. always served my purposes well). Also on my trip last month, I was with my non-pro. And she sapped my vital essence everyday and night. Draining me of the desire to monger.
Be wary of the chica bars in downtown MDP. (The one with the neon Martini glass is notorius for old hags--truly scarey dames in the 50s; some even pushing 60)
I've had great luck calling ads in the newspapers. Look specifically for ads that say Lolita and then be demostrative about wanting a chica who is "muy joven". Otherwise they'll dispatch a 40 something woman.
But as I say, if you persist by asking cab drivers they know everything! And are not shy about telling you.
In my rudimentary Spanish I would say to them, "Senor, Yo quiero ir una 'club' como Madahos con muchas mujeres bonitas. Sabe donde?"
Pose this question to three cab drivers and I'm sure you'll strike gold. THE GIRLS FROM MADAHOS HAVE TO BE WORKING SOMEWHERE.
best of luck!
Exon123
01-12-04 14:42
Keep us posted Mickey
Dick for Brains
01-12-04 16:10
Seems strange that Madaho's would be closed now. This should be the absolute peak season for tourists in Mar Del Plata.
Go figure.
DfB
Stormy
01-13-04 10:01
From Mar del Plata
Contrary to rumor, Madahos was up and running in the evening with about 50 chicas who seemed a little heavier and rather more friendly and outgoing than the ones in BA. The Mouse was working the crowd like a politician the week before elections. Madahos is right next to the Sheraton so it is just a step or two away to carnal bliss. I took home one Patricia for a short session. She was just fine and after asked me if I was going back to Madahos; I guess if you are young and strong you can keep going back and forth all night. The hotel is chica friendly and had quite a few rooms available.
Stormy
Thai Diesel
01-13-04 11:40
Stormy,
Can you provide more details on Madahos? It seemed like there is mixed review about the girls in this place. If you read what Carpediem and LA Larry wrote about this place you can see what I meant. Ofcourse, no disrespect to any of them. Is there a minimum drink requirement? What is the men/women ratio? The cost of the Chicas? Best time to go to this place? My spanish is not very fluent, would that be a problem in Madahos. Thanks.
Thai Diesel
OttoGraham
01-13-04 13:36
TD,
I can't answer all your questions, but I can tell you that if you've never visited Argentina before, and you're planning a mongering trip of a week's time or so, you probably are much better off sticking to Buenos Aires. There's just so much to see and do in this city of 8 million people that going to MDP is probably a waste.
The mongering scene is much better in BsAs than in MDP, which is more like a seasonal resort town.
As for Spanish, try to brush up as best you can; however, many friends who have visited BsAs with me spoke virtually no Spanish and still had a blast. Just because you can't negotiate in the local lingo, expect to pay a bit more for poon. However, prices are so relatively low that even paying too much is pretty darn inexpensive by U.S. and European standards
-Uncle Otto
Carpediem
01-13-04 14:41
Thai Diesel,
There is no conflict in the previous reports, aside from the question of the general appearance of the ladies which is of course question of taste.
I was there Friday/Saturday so of course there were more women. They don't charge you cover immediately, but you're required to have at least one drink apparently, although nobody was checking that in my case (or I didn't notice it).
Place opens at 11pm, it's rather quiet before 12am or so.
Some girls would speak a bit of English, but not many and not much. However, they
will understand the basic vocabulary without problems.
See previous report re the cost.
Have fun!
Mickey Mouse
01-13-04 18:16
MDP update:
Otto speaks the truth concerning a mongering trip, BA is # 1 and if your soul purpose to come to MDP is for the girls, stay in BA.
Madaho (MDP) is about 1/3 or 1/4 the size of Madaho BA. We got there about midnight & there were about 50 girls (mostly semi-pros I think) waitng for us when we entered (no other men were there), about 60% were Not BA Quality. The girls were; however, very friendly (much more so than BA) and loved to come up to you to talk. More than 1/2 the girls were married with child(ren) and "I think" on vacation with the family trying to make some extra cash. Another large percentage were young (20) and also on vacation with the family having some fun making some cash and doing some exploring. And the rest were from MDP making a living. This is my assessment after talking to about 20 (more than 12 of them with wedding rings) of them after a little side bet with Stormy. BTW. I did try to see if there might be a mother/daughter combo working and had No luck, but the possibilty wouldn´t surprise me down the road.
Access to Madaho was free even though I had a card from BA. I think they charge you a fee when you leave if you don´t spend anything while there, but I had no problem with that. Prices for the girls are 150p for 1 hr (& 1 drink), but I got mine for 250p for TLN (until 11:30am) and 2 drinks purchased.
We will see what new adventure tonight brings, maybe that tall voluptuous cuban I should have grabbed when I had the chance or maybe that mother/daughter combo I´m thinking about. Whatever it is, I will be able to return the sweater that was left in my room this morning.
Until next time,
MM
MoonDog
01-13-04 20:32
Thanks for the update. :)
Stormy
01-14-04 10:16
News flash!
Stormy stays up one hour later than Mickey Mouse! Madahos seemed much more low energy last night than the first night. There were more customers and the same chicas as yesterday.
Everybody seems to be on vacation from somewhere, be it from Buenos Aires or even far to the north. Brought a tall Turkish or Arab chica
back named Gloria. She works out of an apartment in BA. She was high energy and we went out for short time (hour and a half) for 150 plus drink. After one go, she was willing to drink beer and do another round but I could not stay awake and she left pretty rapidly.
The whole issue with MDP is that if it is a low energy situation or you don't see anyone you like there really is no where else to go without special local knowledge. In BA you could head off to Catto or to Madahos or where ever in a moment.
The Sheraton is the best hotel and is out of the city center which is probably the best thing. MDP is quite large and the city streets are packed with people. It is not interesting The beaches are a nightmare of hundreds and hundreds of cabañas rented for day use and packed with people.
We ate at two very decent restaurant/pubs. Pehuen is a meat place quite close to the Sheraton and Pontenedra is a sea food place about a 10 minute taxi ride away. Service was excellent and both were quite inexpensive by BA standards.
There was no hot water in the Sheraton yesterday night so we were unable to clean up properly after an afternoon by the pool.
As a result we had to pay for sex that night! The pool is nice, the rooms have a beautiful view and the air conditioning works.
The breakfasts are so bad that the same food in my Navy days would have caused a mutiny. Reception services seemed to be very good.
It has been a fun change of pace experience, but I probably would not repeat unless I brought my own talent with me on a visit of a few days.
Stormy
Thai Diesel
01-14-04 12:03
Uncle Otto, MM, Stormy
Thank you for all of the great advices. I'm planning a trip to BA in early February. It will be my first trip ever as a monger and to BA. I was reading the BA's forum and was following MM and Stormy adventure that's how I ended up in MDP's forum. I will stick to BA for couple of times before venture to other cities. You can PM me for any additional advices regarding BA's Chicas, hotels or clubs. Thanks again to everyone.
MM, Stormy
Great infos on MDP and BA. Your adventures are well documented and very helpful especially for new monger like myself. Please keep us posted and good luck to MM for a mother/daughter combo.
Thai Diesel
Mickey Mouse
01-14-04 19:28
Word to the wise:
You should know that The Sheraton charges 30p for each & every visitor.
Summary to follow,
MM
Dancesw/Chicas
01-14-04 21:23
Amigos,
Thank you for reporting from all the way down there!
Question: About the girls at Madaho's MDP.
Are the girls as sophisticate and good in bed as SOME are
in Buenos Aires or are they more "simple" overall?
DWC
Thai Diesel
01-15-04 00:59
Carpediem,
Thanks for the info. I'll take advices from Uncle Otto, MM and stay in BA. As I have mentioned previously this will be my first trip ever as a monger and in BA.
I'm planning on going to BA in early February. Once I have all of the traveling info. I'll post it in BA's forum. Hopefully, I'll be able to meet some of you mongers in BA.
Thanks again to you, Uncle Otto, MM and Stormy.
Thai Diesel
LA Larry
01-15-04 12:55
Dances with Chicas--
Let's be perfectly clear here about the MDP Madajos chicas--they are every bit as "sophisticated" and slutty as any of the girls in BA. (Loads of them are from Brazil, Pargauy, etc--just like the clubs in BA).
Say there are 30-40 girls that work in MDP Madajos--at least 8 of these girls are truly hotties--comparable to the best that BA has to offer.
The problem with MDP is that it is a smaller pond than BA--so if you hit a bad night in Madajos--you can't hop in a cab and hit several other clubs until you strike gold.
MDP is great for an excursion.
I've had full blown GFE with the some of the girls from Madajos. I've had average sessions. And poor sessions. Just like I've had in BA.
The prices are cheaper--especially out of season. Say in March.
And Lastly--
the girls are much more relaxed than BA--if you are a cool person, they often chill the entire night with you for 150 pesos (i always round up to $200 pesos).
In BA, my experience is that the chicas are runners---they want to get back to the club. This can happen in MDP, but less frequently.
Happy trails....
Mickey Mouse
01-15-04 16:38
My Summary:
I completely agree with Larry. I had 2 wonderful GFE, TLN sessions and she was ready to go home at noon and get her bikini so she could spend the day with me if I had wanted.
The restaurants (see Stormy´s review) are just as good, more relaxed and 25 to 30% cheaper than BA.
The Sheraton is the place to stay, but it isn´t cheap and they do charge 30p for a guest. They do have 2 pools (1 in and 1 out) and full facilities, but I will be damned why 1. the room safe can only be operated by the room key (so everyone in the room has access to the safe) and 2. there are 2 separate elevator call buttons for 3 elevators; 1 for 1 elevator and the other button for 2? So on your way down your stopping at every other floor and not picking anyone up. BTW, the breakfast at the Sheraton sucks!
I don´t know what the off season is like, but I can imagine things don´t change much except the number of people is much less so the prices must be cheaper like the summer resorts in the US.
To sum it all up: BA is the place for mongering, but if I wanted to escape for a couple days to a nice place for a day or 2 of relaxation, sun and maybe bring a nice chica that I like, Mar de Plata would be a great choice.
Only 2 days left in BA; and OH, what to do?
MM
OttoGraham
01-15-04 18:25
Quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Mouse
Only 2 days left in BA; and OH, what to do?
How about doing what I've been known to do, extending your visit? As I'll be in BsAs starting on Monday, we can compare notes and you can drill a few more trixies! ;)
-Uncle Otto
Carpediem
01-15-04 20:26
Re: Hotels in Mar del Plata:
It appears that people are not very happy with Sheraton, so I'll outline my experience.
I stayed in Torres Manatiales (contrary to my own report that claimed that I stayed in Madahos :)) and that was pretty good experience. Nice big 1-bedrooms. Nice view. Good elevators. Very chica friendly - to the degree that they behave as if they don´t see you when you walk back with your visitor. For those who like TLN, there is a hotel safe which is free.
Breakfast is, well, ok.
Hotel is however probably not much cheaper than Sheraton. On the other hand, it´s just 3 minutes by cab.
For future purposes, I would be glad to hear about other hotels in MdP.
Lukasek
02-02-04 19:18
Ciao All Guys,
2 weeks without any reports?
What's happened? I am reading every reports about MDP, because I want to go there for the first time, so I have some questions. Whom I can write?
I write here in forum or as private message?
Thank you all in advance,
Alot of greetings from cold:O( Verona,
Luca
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Andres
02-03-04 13:56
Private apartment in MDP (appeared in the local board):
Whoever goes to Madaho's, remember to get BRAZILIAN chicas. They would go for BBBJ, and they really get wet. Remember Brazlian chicas!
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Lukasek
03-04-04 17:02
Guys,
Nobody is in Mar de la Plata? I will be here, and I heard it's a good place, but only a few report. Why?
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Doc Bill
07-01-04 12:10
I'm going to be in Argentina in early October. Is that a good time to go to MDP? Thanks!
Andres
07-01-04 12:32
Doc Bill:
October is one of the best months for enjoying the beach and the warm weather, but it isn't vacation time. However, you should find a good selection of ladies.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Doc Bill
07-05-04 00:06
Yes, thanks Andres! Which do you think is better, Mar del Plata or Puntas del Este (sp?) in Uraguay. If I can't do both, which one should I do?
Saint
09-28-04 18:15
I plan on making an exploratory trip down to Mar del Plata when I have some time. I met with an American that also is interested in the real estate market (she owns several apartments in Buenos Aires) and she said prices down there are much much cheaper than Buenos Aires. If that is true and the quality of properties is nice there, I will consider buying an apartment, furnishing it with luxury furniture and renting it out just as I am doing in Buenos Aires.
I'm not sure when I can make it down there with my busy schedule but I hope to make it down there once it gets warmer. I'll report what I find out.
Saint
LA Larry
10-11-04 17:24
Hey Saint--
Just read your below entry.
You know I'm a big fan of MDP.
But to be fair, its a little worn at the elbows for an investment vehicle.
I love to go down there, because, well, its an adventure for me to travel through the pampas and get even further south on the globe. I plan on checking out Miramar in December.
But my last trip down there to MDP was a tad disappointing. The city looked a little less welcoming than I had previously experienced.
I still would recommend a visit for all those who have yet to go --
but for an investment apartment -- maybe Punta Del Este is a better play.
Just my opinion.
Best,
Saint
10-24-04 15:30
Hey Larry..you're right
I didn't see this message here from you posted a while back. I already did some DD and figured out as an investment it's not too great of an idea. They do have some damn affordable apartments but the problem is that MDP is not a year-round destination. It only has a maximum of 2-3 months high season. The rest of the year is dead. That is not a good play for an investment.
So far most people that have been there have told me that it's nothing to write home about so I probably won't even go down there. You are right about Punta del Este. I have some apartment listings on my site for sale now. I wish I had the money to buy an apartment there. One client offered to pay $5,000 US to rent for only ONE MONTH. I think besides Buenos Aires... PDE is the hot spot to invest in. Uruguay also has a stable history for foreign ownership.
Good luck.
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