RAMON:
Thanks for your lovely writing Jeanine and I am sorry for leading you onto the wrong path.
There is no way I will be going back home at this moment.
My airplane to Spain still departs on Monday evening from Johannesburg and my project will go on.
Indeed, as you wrote, staying with different people and so many conflicting opinions, some senseless and social behaviors is very exhausting. That is why I will be staying in a low-budget hotel in Johannesburg from Friday until Monday the 10th, so I’ll be able to update the latest reports that deserve to be written (!) without being a guest for a few days. My friends in the backup-team pay all expenses of this hotel.
I just need some time. Time to reflect, relax and prepare.
Name: Gerard Oosthuizen
City, Country: Kelvin, Johannesburg, South Africa
Sent: 1.23 PM - 12/6 2001
Ramon, it was a real pleasure to have you with us for a few days. You were a very easy, courteous, pleasant and interesting guest. You are always welcome in our home!
Colleen, Nakita & Storm sends their love, and we all wish you a very pleasant last few days in South Africa, a safe journey to Spain, and a wonderful time there.
And if for some reason you need help / assistance / transport / a place to stay before you leave South Africa, remember we are only a phone call away.
Warm regards,
Gerhard, Colleen, Nakita & Storm
Name: Brian
City, Country: Durban, South Africa
Sent: 6.35 AM - 12/6 2001
Yes well...
Ramon, you are quite right about GI Joe. It is the same everywhere. You get good and bad all over. With any luck, GI Joe is in the minority in USA, and indeed, in the world.
Certainly MJ and Bret are supporting you, and speaking out against Mr Joe. And then there is Tom that posted some messages a while ago, he also seems well balanced.
But I can understand your feelings. It is human nature to remember the bad things of others, and the good things of ourselves. So, it takes a minority to destroy the reputation, and often the well-being, of the majority.
The criminals in SA are a particularly good example, as Lianne in England so clearly indicated. Yes, those stats sound true, but let's face it, the criminal element in SA is probably less than 5% of the total population. Yet they are the ones that everyone all over the world remembers.
With any luck, and here I am speaking in favour of the USA, Mr Joe is in his country's minority. With any luck, the vast majority of Americans are decent people.
Whatever the case, keep on moving. We appreciate your reports, they show the world how the world lives. And when you're done, your fan club will be there, at least in spirit, if not in body, to welcome you home!
Hamba kahle
Brian
Name: MJ
City, Country: Denver, USA
Sent: 1.20 AM - 12/6 2001
I feel sorry for GI Joe as well, but in a different way. I don't feel he has learned much about the world except for the four walls that encircle him. If he's had bad experiences, it's not the world's fault. Please Ramon, I know (hope)you don't think we are all like this, but we are also not all the same. People can have their opinions (because it would be boring if we were all the same), but it is up for the rest of us to educate the them...in this case, it's definite that, that has not happened. Respect and toleration.
Name: Bret
City, Country: CA,USA
Sent: 12.06 AM - 12/6 2001
Ramon,
Thanks for keeping the posting of GI Joe. I am not embarassed for him, but feel sorry that he is a coward at not even posting his name. Cowards don't win wars, nor anything else for that matter. Your words ring true Ramon. I find in this message board bits of information here and there that help me understand this confused planet. Information that comes from around the world in it's many perspectives, can only help in understanding us all as a whole.
Thank you Ramon, and your support staff for all of this.
Name: dbk Tom
City, Country: NZ
Sent: 10.48 PM - 12/5 2001
WITH YOU ALL THE WAY RAMON
Name: Lianne
City, Country: England, UK
Sent: 6.33 PM - 12/5 2001
Good for you Ramon!
21 000 people last year were murdered in South Africa. 1 in 4 have Aids in Kwa Zulu Natal, (South Africa). Every 26 seconds in South Africa, a woman gets raped. 30% unemployment, and daunting economic problems : Currently 1.00 United Kingdom Pounds = 15.3322 South Africa Rand. (And that just one country to use an example)
What I am trying to say from these statistics is that yes bad things are happening all over the world too, on a daily basis, often in third world country’s without the money, connections and media power to make an impact, to make a statement about how “pissed” they are at it.
Ramon, I’m sure your eyes have been opened by your travels to all the country’s you have visited. Travel guides can be bought!! By not being tunnel visioned, by being open to other cultures, for not being ignorant and for getting off your ass and doing something about it. This is the most important thing that your “followers” can learn from you and can only be learnt by those who are not so arrogant to realize it.
PS : Thanks for being one of the good guys.
Name: Karen
City, Country: London, UK
Sent: 4.17 PM - 12/5 2001
Thumbs up for your statement Ramon!
Name: GI Joe
City, Country: Good old USA
Sent: 5.08 AM - 12/5 2001
That would be great Joao, if Iraq would attempt an attack against Israeli. It would be just the excuse we Americans would need, to blow Iraq to smithereens. Which we will be doing soon anyway, with or without an attack on Israeli. But, what the hell, the sooner the better. And God help the world if there are anymore terrorists attacks in America. We are pissed.
RAMON:
I almost deleted your message GI Joe (don't you dare to give your real name?), but I decided to let it be. I hope many people from your Good old USA will be so enormously embarrassed by your writing, as I am. A lot of people should stop feeling so good and so perfect and thus so powerful in this world. When will even the most ignorant and stupid people understand that there can never be something rare called peace if you behave so high-flying-in-the-clouds!!! Nobody is perfect and everybody is the same. And there is no Good old USA, just like there is no Good old Holland or Good old UK. We are living now. People like you, GI Joe, make me not even WANT to visit the US!
UPDATE 6/12:
Please know that AOL.COM (your provider Mr. Joe) allows me to find out all the information about you. Let me help you remember your real name next time...
Name: Joao Paulo Paglione
City, Country: New york City, New York
Sent: 12.02 AM - 12/5 2001
Goede Dag Ramon,
It is getting colder in New York City . . .
I am posting this message because I saw that you were donating your commissions to the AIDS foundation in South Africa. I think this is an excellent idea and a great way to use your site.
I wonder what you think of the Israelis invading Palestine now and now that Iraq has threatened to attack Israel if they continue. This worries me how the region is becoming more destabilized ..
So my question is, if you got invitations to visit Israel or even Iraq -- would you go?
RAMON:
Yes, I would almost say of course, I have invites from Israel. I have set only one important rule before I set off my journey: I will NOT visit countries at war. So for now, I won't visit the United States of America and if Israel declares war, I won't visit that country. That counts for any country. If South Africa would declare war tomorrow, I'll be out of the country the next day. It is just because I won't have anything to do there.
Name: Judith de Groot
City, Country: Groningen, The Netherlands
Sent: 8.20 PM - 12/4 2001
Hey Ramon,
how are you doing, so far away from this cold and rainy Holland? Hope to be in touch with you someday again, I might meet you on your chatbox. For now I am very busy reading a whole bunch of your latest reports...
SO far so good,
lots of love and take care of yourself!! You're doing a good job!
Juut
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Name: Heidi
City, Country: Cape Town, South Africa
Sent: 8.06 AM - 12/4 2001
Dear Ramon
Well done and I hope that you are enjoying our country.
I have been following your travels and wish you well.
I know that this is not the site for it, but I lived in Overbrook, Kansas, USA as an exchange student in 1997 and met a wonderful Dutch girl, Brigitte Lammers. My address book was lost when I returned and I would love to get in touch with her. Can anyone please help? She came from Delft, has a brother, I think Fodo and her father is in the IT industry. She is about 31 or 32 years old.
I would be so grateful to get in touch with her again.
Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year.
RAMON:
Try searching for her last name in the Dutch online phonebook at http://www.detelefoongids.com. You'll find a few more Lammers, but you can try them to find out (country code Holland = +31). Good luck!
Name: Li Ming
City, Country: Zhengzhou, China
Sent: 3.53 AM - 12/4 2001
Hi, Ramon,
I am very glad that you accepted my invitation. And it is me and one friend of mine Mr. Li Ming invited you and will help you during your staying in China somedays.
Zhengzhou, our city, located in the oldest part of China, it is not as developed as southeast China, but more typical Chinese. There is flight from Beijing everyday. I am a professional photographer and Mr. li Ming is amature and speak English. Mr. Li Ming visited Nehterland 3 time since 1997 and stayed in Nord(Enkhuizen, Grootbroek, Ooterbroek, Hoogkarsbel, Medemblik and Broekerhaven) during all the 3 visit.
Should I know your schedule, I will made you some sugesstion for your staying in China and we would like to drive you to other interesting place in China if Mr. Li Ming and me are free during your stay.
Looking forward to your visit.
Yours,
Zhou Peiying, Li Ming
Name: Brian
City, Country: Durban, South Africa
Sent: 7.54 AM - 12/3 2001
Hey, Ramon
One thing, thank you so much for doing your bit for AIDS in SA, and especially in KZN. Yes, we do have a problem with it, and your efforts are sincerely appreciated by South Africans of all types.
It is so good to see that there are people out there who have no particular ties with South Africans, and who are still willing to do something to help. I truly hope that the SOuth African government recognises you in some meaningful way for your concern.
You are indeed a special person, much admired by many people.
hamba kahle
Brian
Name: Brian
City, Country: Durban, South Africa
Sent: 7.50 AM - 12/3 2001
Hi Kim, Ramon
Ramon, thanx for the photos already. Well... What can I say? I'm waiting with baited breath to see the reports. They should be interesting.
Hey, that idea on the messageboard about a fan club, it is great. What can we do?
Kim, you can see the photos already. I'm quite surprised that Ramon got them on so soon, as he really did get delayed during his week without the net. Have faith, Ramon works hard on his reports, I know he is doing his best.
Of course, he gathers "interesting" information about his hosts from their colleagues, so be careful who you tell what. :-) But I'm sure the reports are coming.
As far as your curiosity about me, well, I'm a single white guy in Durban, living what I believe is a fairly normal life. Ramon's perspective, of course, might be a little different. I'll comment on his reports if needed. But I believe that he will be completely honest, and polite, about it.
See ya!
Brian
Name: Sanja
City, Country: Kragujevac, Yugoslavia
Sent: 8.45 PM - 12/2 2001
Hey Ramon,
I always wanted to do something like what are you doing right now, but I never had courage for it... I am glad you do! I am in the US now, here in college, but I go home every summer if you ever want to come to Yugoslavia let me know and you would be more then welcome to stay in my house.
Best of luck!!!!
Name: billy
City, Country: japan
Sent: 1.40 AM - 12/2 2001
Ramon, congratulations with your 7 months on the road. We seem to stay congratuating you here all the time :-)
Name: Lynn
City, Country: USA
Sent: 1.22 AM - 12/2 2001
My Prayers go out for the victims and their families in Israeli, in the latest cowardly bombings against innocent civilians at the Mall in Jerusalem.
Name: Ramon Stoppelenburg
City, Country: Johannesburg, South Africa
Sent: 11.34 PM - 12/1 2001
Sorry you all, but I need to spam here for a good cause.
To celebrate the fact that Santa Clause is coming soon, I now have this unique Letmestayforaday Teddy Bear for sale in the Letmestayforaday-webshop. Only available until January 1, 2002.
This is done in association with Cafepress.com, which gives all buyers a discount of US$ 1,01 on the total $15 price.
See this cute teddy bear
ALL commissions earned in the shop will be donated to the AIDS Foundation of South Africa.
The AIDS Foundation of South Africa is a registered non-profit organisation based in Durban, South Africa. This foundation links donations with community-based HIV/AIDS organisations who are not in a position to raise their own funds.
http://www.aids.org.za
Now the World Aids Day has ended, let's act a little bit. You get the teddy bear, while people in South Africa (where 1 out of 4 people in the province KwaZulu Natal is HIV/AIDS infected!) can become more
aware of this terrible disease.
With regards,
Ramon Stoppelenburg.
Name: James Lam
City, Country: Merseyside, UK
Sent: 8.17 PM - 12/1 2001
What a great idea, long live your trip!
I know I cannot do what you are doing because I have a
young family to feed and I am over 40. However, I
don't think I have the courage & wisdom to go through what you are going through at any time of my life anyway. Good luck!
Name: Roman Romano
City, Country: Veracruz, Mexico
Sent: 7.43 PM - 12/1 2001
Hi Ramon, we're waiting for you en Mexico!!! I invited you to Monterrey, but since I no longer live there I posted an invitation to my new city, Veracruz. But I didn't find where I could change the invitation. I hope you read this and change the place to go.
Anyway, I'm looking for friends who would be glad to invite you to Monterrey. I have many good friends there. Please, let me know if you did the change of city, thanks! and come soon!!!!
RAMON:
Roman, please just send me an email with your old address and your new address. Then I can easily change it in the database.
Come soon? The world is big...
Name: Nilay pilancý
City, Country: Ýstanbul Türkiye
Sent: 5.38 PM - 12/1 2001
Hi! Romon! I realy want to stay me. I'm Wating Turkey
Ýstanbul.
Name: Kim
City, Country: Berlin, Germany
Sent: 2.52 PM - 12/1 2001
Hi Ramon! What a pity that there is no longer report about your stay with Brian in Durban. I read his former messages on this board and was/am quite curious to know more about him, his views about life and what you talk about when you met. Like Brian I also submitted my place and follow your tour for quite a while. Well, such is life - better skipping some reports than staying behind more and more. I also wrote some travel-diaries (www.take-it-ec.com - beware: it's in German!) and just the writing took one to two hours each day and I know: it's real work!
I am an addict to your reports. They allow little escapes from bad weather and daily working routine!
Keep on travelling, Ramon! You make me feel like being a travel companion.
Name: Evie
City, Country: Florida
Sent: 2.08 PM - 12/1 2001
Hoi Ramon! Ik wil maar zeggen, dat je idee over je reportschrijven goed is. I only want to say that your idea about writing your reports is good. Niemand zullen plezier van de schrijvend van oude reports vinden, bijzonders als er niet zoveel vrijtijd is! Nobody would find fun in writing old reports, especially if there isn't so much free time! Sulk een werk geeft een zwarte wolk om boven de hoofd te hangen! Work like that makes a black cloud hang over the head! Dus moet je niet de schuld over je beslissing houden! So don't feel any guilt about your decision!
Groetjes,
Evie, _still_ waiting for winter
Name: DEWEIRDT NOËL
City, Country: BELGIUM
Sent: 8.38 AM - 12/1 2001
HI DEAR TRAVELLER
Your site is great and the idea is great to
I will send the url to all my friens all over the world and sure they will like it and follow you on your trip
ONE QUESTION Why do you dont give the mail adress
from the friendly people wher you stay every day if they like and agree of coarse so we people that follow you can make/organise a real fan club ????????
Lets hear you plaese
NOËL
Name: Crescent Songs
City, Country: EDINBURGH, SCOTLAND, UK
Sent: 3.42 AM - 12/1 2001
Hi Ramon.
On the HIV/Aids front. everyone ckeck out this site.
*www.teenaids.org*
It's run by a Dr. Chittick who is one GoodGuy and doin' it BIGTIME!
The world just lost George Harrison. Let's not lose any more close to us.
Best Wishes.
T & G.
Take care
Name: Lindy Lou Lou
City, Country: London
Sent: 10.48 PM - 11/30 2001
I liked to ask Ramon, what is the worst place if any you've stayed in and why?
Fantastic and original idea!
RAMON:
I always say that this website is not about the good and the bad as anybody who opens its doors for me is special in a certain way. I write my report with all honesty, so they will reflect when I won't feel comfy at a certain place. But I don't see myself in any position to rate peope about their places. I have slept on a couch in an airport when I got stuck in England, but I don't see that as something bad. It was actually quite interesting.
Name: Rob
City, Country: in UK / NZ mostly
Sent: 8.47 PM - 11/30 2001
Hi Ramon,
What a fantantic way of mixing travel and the Net together, wish I had thought of it! Finding your SA travels very interesting as I'm thinking of heading there myself next year. Have travelled a great deal over the last 10 years but never to Africa. I have added a link to this site from my work for your accommodation and food website called Help Exchange, which may be of assistance to your trip? www.helpx.net
PS read about your travels in yesterdays Metro news, a free UK newspaper.
Name: Arjan van Heuveln
City, Country: London, UK
Sent: 4.41 PM - 11/30 2001
Hi Ramon,
Great idea, and respect for actually seeing it through. If, on your travels, you need to stop over again in London let me know. I am a fellow Dutchie so can show you London from a Dutchman's perspective! (I'm close to the airport too!) I've submitted my address. Good luck on your further travels.
Name: Ashtraxx
City, Country: england
Sent: 11.09 AM - 11/30 2001
Hello
firstly i would like to say- ramon_ what a guy!!!! All the best luck n the world
SECONDLY- i am leaving to travel myself. i am starting out by catching a plane to new york and then travel throuth north america-central america-south america then onto japan and Korea
PLease could anyone contact me if they can offer me a place for a night, or a job or just good advice because i have never done anything like this before!!!:-)
Thanking you in advance
ash
ashtraxx@mail2dude.com
Name: Journo Jim
City, Country: Dublin, Ireland
Sent: 10.44 AM - 11/30 2001
Ramon,
I've been busy and only today caught up with your site and travels again. About Siberia, I have a few suggestions about how you could do that, but I won't mention them here in case all of your readers decide that going to Russia for free would be a cool thing to do. I'll be in touch. Keep on trucking!
Jim
Name: sue
City, Country: belgium
Sent: 9.37 AM - 11/30 2001
hoi ramon veel plezier en suces met je tocht
Name: Andy White
City, Country: Bournemouth, England
Sent: 8.55 AM - 11/30 2001
Your site is very good and I'm enjoying reading your thoughts on the people and places you visit. Obviously once this is done you should put it all in a book as I think that would be great!
I just wanted say well done for living your life how you want to and finding a way to realise your dream. It is also a great idea to ad photo's to your site that show the people you are meeting.
Keep it up,
All the best
Name: Antony
City, Country: Tianjin,China
Sent: 8.49 AM - 11/30 2001
I appreciate ur idea and courage,hope that someday u can visit china and i will be glad to be ur tour guide.
or maybe i may meet u on the street of an uncertain country,give me a signature,will u?(as a return,i will give u mine)
Name: Brian
City, Country: Durban, South Africa
Sent: 6.21 AM - 11/30 2001
Hi Ramon
All this time I thought the delays in your reports were because people were not allowing you access to the net. Or because you were ... well... I don't have TV, so I can't be sure...
But it seems I'm wrong, it is because you are so popular.
You can be proud that there is so much interest in you and your work. As for the SA influence, welcome to SA! As great a country as we are, we are not perfect.
But wait, give us another five to ten years, and we will be up there with the first world countries in Europe et al. Quality takes Time. (Especially when trying to update your web page, hey!)
Be good (or, if not, then be good at it!)
Hamba kahle Ramon
Regards
Brian
Name: Nicole
City, Country: Saskatchewan, Canada
Sent: 4.22 AM - 11/30 2001
Hello Ramon!!
This is the first I've heard of this and I must say it's pretty amazing!
If you ever decide to do a tour of Canada, let me know and we'll be glad to give you a tour of our GREAT WHITE NORTH!! Carpe Diem and stay safe!
Name: Nicole
City, Country: Saskatchewan, Canada
Sent: 4.22 AM - 11/30 2001
Hello Ramon!!
This is the first I've heard of this and I must say it's pretty amazing!
If you ever decide to do a tour of Canada, let me know and we'll be glad to give you a tour of our GREAT WHITE NORTH!! Carpe Diem and stay safe!
Name: Crescent Songs
City, Country: EDINBURGH, SCOTLAND, UK.
Sent: 11.50 PM - 11/29 2001
Hi Ramon.
It's some nugget of an idea you came up with! Treat all the folks right. You plan a book, I believe? Good transworlding!
T & G.
(Crescent Songs).
~#;-)
PS.I think media researchers surfed you up onto their agenda beach!
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