sure that those that have had most avauntage hy that au-
thority , zaonid not have lost one peny to salve your life; nor
wil not, you saj,Jbr me, if I were in like necessity. Wher-
fore you exhort me to keep me from trust of such succor.
Good my Lord, tel me, my Lord of Rochester, or Master
More, did they hope of such succor? Did they think the
Pope would send an host to deliver them from death? What
words be these in so great a matter, for the gravity of such
a man as you ever have been esteemed ? Make you the
matter as light as you wil, there was never a greater matter
entreated, of more importance to the wealth of the realm,
and the whole Church, than this. And this same that you
go about to take away, the authority of one Head in the
Church, was a more principal and groundle cause of the
loss of the Orient, to be in infidels hands, and al true reli-
gion degenerate, than ever was the Turks sword, as most
wisest men have judged. For if they had agreed al with
the Occidental Church, they had never come to that misery :
and like misery, if God have not mercy on us to retuVn to
the Church, is most to be feared in our realm, and in al
other where such discession is made. And if you wil not
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suffer in this cause, except you be sure, tliose to whom it most
appertaineth wil again allow with you ; look wel upon the
matter, my Lord, and you shal find, that he to whom this
cause most belongeth unto is the same, that not only hath
suffered for you, but dyed for you, to redeem you body
and soul. It is Christs cause, my Lord, and for his sake
dyed these great men, your great friends ; whom you may
not think of so little spirit, nor so vile mind, that they saw
not wherfore they dyed, or that they dyed for any respect,
advantage, or thing, to be looked for in this world.
But you say. There he noio as great learned men in divin-
ity/ in the realm, as be in other countries. But how much
more greater than my Lord of Rochester, or Master Moore,
or other holy learned men that dyed for this cause ? I can
say no more, but God send you a more livelyer spirit, than
you sliow now to his honor.
Now I come to the last conclusion of your letter : where
by another fasliion of reasoning, as by the honor, reverence,
and love I bear to the Kings Higltnes, my country, and
friends, you do exhort me, to leave the opinion that I have
so much advanced in my book: And first of al you alledg
unto me the estimation of my whole country, what they
would think of me, if they, delivered out of a great bond-
age, meaning by that the obedience to the Pope, I should go
about to reduce them to captivity again. Here, my Lord,
I cannot tel what I may more lament ; your words set un-
der this maner, or the misery of the time in our country,
giving place to your words: which hath continued now
some years in such maner, that, meseemeth, the time of the
building the tower of Babylon is come again, when no men 2l6
understand other. For so it is now. This captivity you
speak of, and this liberty, I understand not what you
mean. But if sentence compound of words, having deeds
conformable to the words, making al seeming true, this I
find indeed, and in this I wil not take record of one man,
or one city or town, but of one whole state of the realm,
which is the spiritualty, which should have most ease by
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this renouncing of the Popes poAvcr, tli^ same most extend-
ing over them. And now, my Lord, you be one of them,
you may answer for al. But here needeth no answer, your
sweet hberty you have got, syneth you were delivered from
the obedience papal, speaketh for it self. Wherof the rest
of the realm hath such part, that you be without envy of other
countries, that no nation wisheth the same to have such li-
berty granted them. But thus I speak, we be brought to
such case, worse than Babylon, that no man understandeth
another in his own tongue. That that one calleth captivity,
another calleth liberty ; that one saith is against the King,
another calleth with the King.
And this began at such time as the practise of the un-
lucky mariage was brought in : when the King would leave
the noblest and best lady in the world, and would needs
couple himself with the vilest, as the cause of her death
shewed. Then came this confusion. For then being divers
sentences, the one that the King had lived twenty years to-
gether in an incestuous life, a life against nature, and beastly,
as they said ; meaning the conjunction that he had with Q.
Katharine so long time ; therfore he must leave the same.
In another part, defending the contrary, (which was also my
sentence,) that the King was a Prince of honor, and maried
with greatest and weightiest counsil of two noble realms, both
England and Spain. Wherunto agreed the consent of the
Pope, which took away al spots, if there were any of ille-
gitimate coupling. And this might wel be maintained by
good learning. Every man looking what the King Avould
do, the conclusion was, he agreed to the former sentence,
that defamed his life, al the flower of his yoingth ; and so
agreed to it, that they that were on the other part for good
wil, seeing their sentence, wherewith agreed al good learn-
ing, were first called adversaries to the Kings cause, after-
wards, I trow, traitors. And none of those mens writings
might go abroad, that defended the honor of the Kings
mariage and his whole life, but those that most defamed him,
that were thought most strongly to prove his unnatural, in-
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cestuous, and beastly life, these were had in most count ;
these were printed, and read of every man. This, my Lord,
seemed monstrous unto me, and to al the world beside, and
yet doth, and ever shal.
But to return to my purpose, here began the great con-
fusion, that no man could understand other, but that that
was aforetime called constancy in them that would not let
themself be turned from an assured knowledg of the truth,
this was called obstinacy. Those men, of whose vertuc,
learning, wisdom, fidelity, and love to the King and the
realm, where had such sure proofes, that never of any born
under the rule of a king could be had more : those were
called first ignorant, and afterwards condemned as traitors.
But to conclude, my Lord, touching first my country, that
you write would have so ii opinion of me, if I follow that 217
opinion I am entred into; this conclusion, if men cannot
discern their friend from their foe, shal not lett me, my
Lord ; but jjer infamiam, et honam famam, as S. Paul
saith, I wil do them good, where I may have occasion. As
touching the King, this wil I say, if he be left and desolate
of al counsil, that raaketh most to the wealth of his soul of
al other, if every other man for fear, or some private re-
spect, leave to meddle in such matters, surely I wil never
leave him, but, whersoever I have occasion, show my mind
grounded on the truth. And here is the bond you speak
of towards him, of my bringing vp in vertue and learning.
Which I wil ever keep, whatsoever peril or jeopardy to me
privately depend therof. And that you write, my lady,
my mother^ and othei' Diy Jriends, should take disconi/brt
hereby ; I know, my Lord, they love the King too wel, if
they se the purpose of my mind, to take any discomfort
therof. But al the discomfort I take my self is this, that
this mind towards the King, which I do knowledg to pi'o-
cede of tiie high benefit of God, taketh so little effect:
knowing my cause so just, so profitable, so honorable, so
sure for his Grace.
You wish, that you might be but one day with me^ to
conjer these matters. There is nothing, my Lord, I would
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more desire, if it might be ; for I know your faithful hear
towards his Gr. and se your opinion, tho it be not wel
grounded, yet the root of your meaning is good. And that
you swarve from the height of this truth, it cometh rather
for long continuance in other studies, that baseth the mind
too much, where the light of the truth cannot be known,
than of any malice.
And wheras you write in the end of your letter, that I
returning to the new received opinion of my country now^
whatsoever I have written^ you doubt not, hut the means to
be found., that I should be as wel received in the Kings
mind as ever I was. Surely, my Lord, knowing as I
know, if I should now change, then it were better time to
cast me out of his mind, if I were ever in afore. And as
touching the Kings favor, this be you assured, for any ad-
vantage that ever I did or M^il look therof to my self, I wil
never desire it. I cannot but knowledg the benefit of God
herin, that syneth I came to any sense of mans knowledg,
I cannot remember I ever esteemed any thing that the
King, or any prince beside, was able to give me : and if I
had come to his Court to serve him, I had come to give, not
to receive ; and to give nothing of mine own, but al that
God hath given me to serve him withal to his honor.
Whose fortune, if it had been to have had my service, be-
side the comfort that he should have had, served of one of
his own bringing up, of his own choise ; (whom God had
ever furthered to that end he could desire of me; whom
nature also had joyned with him ;) if I had not brought
to pass to kindle his love in the hearts of al his subjects,
with such honor and reverence, that no power in earth
could abolish, to the admiration of al foreign nations, surely
I would never a thought to have done the third part of
my duty. Wherin I dovibted not to have obtained of God
al that might help to such an end. But the hope of this
now, meseemeth, is past. I had trusted, that woman that
had been cause of al these dishonors, had taken away al
dishonor with her ; especially hearing what a good lady the
218 King hath now taken. So that my hope was, redressing al
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that was past amiss, his Gr. in his latter dayes might better
tast of the fruit of true honor, to the better contentation of
himself and al his subjects. But if the ire of God, which
hath been sore provoked, be against this, I can say no
more, but cry to him to turn his just ire into mercy, tho
we deserve none. And the more fervently it maketh me
cry, the more I see approch the General Councel : which
already denounced ^when it shal take effect, the king re-'Ju'ies,
maining in his opinion, several from other christened begin May
princes, must needs make him great dishonor, great fastidie. '^^' ^^^T-
And what shal follow, God knoweth. For his hand most
of all surely I do fear. Wherfore this must needs give me
great sorrow at my heart, the more I see also now so great
opportunity, divers wayes, if God give him grace to return
this time, how with recovery of his honor he may be also a
great instrument of God to the reformation of the whole
Church.
The day afore ^ I received your letter, furr I insure you^.tuiy 26.
beyond my expectation, I received a brief from the Pope,
of which the copy I have sent to Mr. Secretary, wherin he
declareth his good intent for better preparation of the fu-
ture councel already denounced, to have a congregation this
winter at Rome of the best learned men of every nation.
Among whom, albeit most unworthy, he callelh me thither,
binding me with as sure a bond, as I have sure opinion, he
may do so for such a good purpose, by the authority
granted of Christ, that I shal not refuse to come: wher-
unto, God willing, I wil obey, tho with great sorrow re-
membring the Kmg and my country ; whom it mny please
God of his infinite mercy to salve, and to joyn sentence and
opinion with them, whose service is most acceptable afore
God, to his honor, and the wealth of the Church, Who
also may illuminate your spirit to follow the same. And
tlius to his protection I commit you. Written in a place
in the country beside Padoa, where I lay this hot season,
the first day of August,
By your good Lordships assured orator,
Raynold Pole.
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Number LXXXIV.
Cardinal Pole to the Lord Crtimzael, upon his attainder,
and retirement out of France unto Camhray.
Cleopatra, MY Lord, If afore time it could not be surely and clearly
^' ^' perceived, what affection I have ever born to the Kings
honor and wealth, which in my whole life never gave the
least occasion, why ony man should think, but with them
that tendred the same most, I might chiefly be numbred, if
my deeds were truly and indifferently examined : but how-
soever it be, if ony deed afore perversely interpretate, might
219 rise ony scruple to surmise the contrary, these letters that I
write now, as the time and case requireth, (bearing that
tenor as in reading you shal know,) be sufficient not only to
abohsh al former doubts, shewing those to be perversly sur-
mised ; but that make clear, that a more constant and stable
mind in observance of a prince hath not been found, neither
in subject, nor other person beside. And the cause hereof
is, that there never happened hke occasion, as this is that
causeth me now to write, whereby my mind might be so
wel known, which occasion is given of the Kings part under
this maner : that he procuring against me by such mean to
my undoing, as was never heard of the like in Christendom,
against ony that bear that person, that I do at this time : if
my mind after this remain stable, to procure al things that
may be to his honor and wealth, as ever I have professed
afore time, what can be more surer token of a deep and a
profound grounded love and affection ? Whether I do so, I
shal afterward show you. If I declare first to him, that
knoweth it best, the Kings act against me, to the intent
you may know, if I after that remain in myn old state of
observance, it is not for ignorance that I know not what is
machinate against me. And surely, tho I knew afore, both
by your letters and others, in what dlsplesure the King had
me, without the least cause showed of my part, I take God
and my conscience to judg: which thing (if I had born
but a mean affection) might have been sufficient to alienate
also my mind from thence, where I saw, whatsoever I did
for the best, I be ever accepted in the worst part.
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But this I wil not have now take for ony proof of my
mind, but to pi'ocedc of the Kings displesure towards me.
The less I know the cause to be, the further I was from al
imagination to suspect, that his Gr. should be so incensed
against my person, that for to have me in his hand, he
would be content to bi-eak and violate both Gods law and
mans, to disturb al commerce between country and country,
between man and man. And this I would never a thought,
but finding the same to be so indeed, I could not but find
withal, how his Gr. was bent withal to my utter undoing.
Against the which if I remain in my old purpose to procure
his wealth and honor, he that wil seek other proofes after
this, or wil not be content with this declaration of a mans
mind, he declared withal that with no proof he wil be con-
tent, but wil have one his enemy, whether he wil or no.
And of this mind of the King towards me, I had first
knowledg at mine arriving in France. Of the which, to
show you the ful motion of my mind herein, I was more
ashamed to hear, for the compassion I had to the Kings
honor, than moved by ony indignation, that I coming not
only as Ambassador, but as Legate in the highest sort of Em-
bassage that is used among Christen princes, a Prince of
honor should desire of another Prince of like honor, Betray
thine Ambassador, Betray the Legate, and give him into
my Ambassadors hands to be brought unto me. This was
the dislionorable request, as I understand, of the King.
Which, as I said afore, to me surely regarding mine own
part, I promise you was no great displesure ; but rather, if
I shaJ say truth, I took plesure therin, and said forthwith
to my company, that I never felt my self to be in ful pos-
session to be a Cardinal, as when I heard those tidings, 220
wherby it pleased God to send like fortune to me, as it did
to those heads of the Church, whose persons the Cardinals
do represent ; which was to be persecuted most of them,
whose wealth they laboured for most busily. In this case
lived the Apostles. And the same now being happened to
me, afore God I promise I felt no displesure, but rather
was glad therof, specially considering hereby I had the bet-
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ter occasion to declare and justify my mind more than ever
I had before. Which was ever in my mind.
But touching the thing, if we had no other rehgion, but
hved as pagans and infidels, yet jus gentium shovild ever
teach us what demand this was. The law of nature alone
might declare, how abominable it were to grant to such a
request, and no less to desire it. This I reherse now to
this intent, that you might the sooner perceive, that if there
had been but one spark of a mind alienate from the King,
this were enough to set the same in such a fire, that first
considering how al regard of honor was set apart, and the
law that maintaineth the commercement betwixt men, pur-
posed to be violate, so that it might turn to mine imdoing,
first of al on my part I should abstain from al commerce-
ment with that party, either by word, writing, or deed : se-
en ndarily, procure by al honest wayes, if I would not by
dishonest, to repair this malignity, to the uttermost damage
I could devise, towards me, of whose malign mind towards
me I had so great experience.
And yet after al this, first of al you may se forthwith, by
writing at this time, I do not abstain from the first act to
^Secretary practise and entreat with them, that hath been authors*
therof ; and to practise yet to his honor and wealth, which
would utterly extinguish both in me, and if I be heard
herein, to put the same also in execution. Which thing
tho I do surely of mine own purpose and mind, yet some
occasion hereof, how it cometh otherwise, I wil not deny,
nor keep close. Which is this. That wheras the Bishop
of Verona, that was sent of me to the French Court, to inti-
mate those affaires, that for the wealth of Christendom the
Pope had committed unto me, to intreat with his Majesty,
in his return, passing by Abbevyle; where were lodged my
Lord of Wynchester and Mr. Bryan, (wheras he could
not but greatly mervayl of this act of the King towards me,
my whole legation purposing no other but his honor and
wealth,) and desiring therfore to confer the same with the
Ambassadors, for the better declaration of the truth of the
matters to be known as they were, my Lord of Wynchester
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and Mr. Brian both abstaining, for respect, from al commu-
nication, yet sending unto him their Secretary, after the
Bishop had in part declared the effect of my legacy, that
touched in ony part the King, it seemed to be open to both
parties, that al the King had don against me was of the
sinister and false reports of others, that by false conjecture
of things they knew had evil informed the King of my pur-
pose of coming into these parts. Which the Secretary
thought, onys cleared and declared either by letters or mes-
sengers, the King would turn his mind as his Gr, saw the
deeds to justify themselves. This the Bishop of Verona at
his return shewed me ; which I accepted in that part to be
true also : that al came of evil information, and that his Gr. 22
being ascertained of my mind, as it is and ever hath been,
it were not impossible in some part to knowledg rather my
gratitude, than to machinate ony thing contrary. And that
it might be so known, for al parts it cannot be but wel.
But, as I shewed the Bishop, by letters I had attempted
often the same, but al could not prevail. My messenger I
had sent often for that purpose, could never be admitted to
have audience of the King. And without one of these
wayes were found, there could no conclusion be had in
these matters. Where in reasoning with him, I asked, if
for the love and service that ever he hath born to the King,
and shewed indeed when he was in that place, where his
service might be in stead to the King, and love also he
liath ever to me, having assured knowledg of al my affaires
and purposes, not only these last, but al synyth my depart-
ing from the realm, whether he could be content, the Kings
plesure first known, to acquiet the Kings mind in this be-
lialf, by going to his Gr. and enforming him of the whole,
wherin aforesaid he should do a deed most charitable.
Wherin also I did alledg unto him for to bind him withal,
because after such demonstration of the Kings mind made
imto me, few men would be content to practise with his Gr.
in any thing belonging unto me ; for this cause I did re-
herse to you mo things to induce him hereunto; and among
others this chiefly, the purpose of his coming to mc, wliich
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afore God was this, that the Pope intending by al means of
benignity to practise with the King, having the French
King so joyned in amity with the King, and with his sanc-
tity also, devising for a meet instrument between both ; if
any person, for this degree newly taken were not accepted,
the Bishop of Verona was thought most meetest ; being, for
his old deserts to both Princes, as long as he was in that
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