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Name: Maurelio Maria Fernandez City, Country: Spain Sent: 10.12 AM - 10/10 2001 Ramon, I have to agree with your 'personal opinion' in your October 7 report. It is true that the western civilised world has been entering other countries and cultures with their products, without any understanding but with only one reason: making even more money. Partly we are ALL to blame for what happens in the world today. We should indeed just 'trade' with countries, and respect the cultural differences and let every country produce its own unique products. Which we mostly don't let them... I definitely can't blame them too for being angry and Anti-USA (read: Anti-western civilisation). Good luck Ramon. Name: Acadia City, Country: USA Sent: 11.31 PM - 10/9 2001 I hope my Dad will check out your site, Ramon. The only place on earth he would like to revisit is Africa. It is the only place from his time in the Airforce that he talks about. The red sky looks exactly the way he describes it. Name: Liam City, Country: Ireland Sent: 5.29 PM - 10/9 2001 Ramon,
Dont forget to call visit the 'Kingdom in the sky'...Lesotho will impress you Name: marie City, Country: usa Sent: 10.45 AM - 10/9 2001 If you look back at the log for this messageboard you will see that Ramon himself posts non-travel related messages. As well as commenting on world events in his daily log. We are all here to live vicariously through Ramon. He has given us a medium through which to give him our opinions/feelings on what he wrote, or information we want to share. If the bounds have been breached Ramon himself can set the record straight, as he has in the past, or he can delete messages he feels are inappropriate, as he has in the past. Patience and use of the scroll bar can get you by those posts you do not want to read.
LOVED the sunset and sky pictures especially, and now I can finally believe they are real, and not tricks of some photographer! And thank you for the "virtual safari", and the interesting facts about giraffes! With the worldwide recession and the drop in travel and tourism (due to fears of terrorism), you will probably be invited to more and more first class hotels and be taken to more tourist attractions (like the safari)--which will be better advertising than they could get anywhere else, for the money. But more important, your faithful viewers like me) will benefit the most from your new experiences! Thanks again, and take care. Name: Brian City, Country: Durban, South Africa Sent: 6.15 AM - 10/9 2001 Hi all
There is a trend to use Ramon's messageboard as an outlet for feelings and comments about the USA/Afganistan/whatever activities. Yes, this is real, and yes, it is a war, so it does affect us all. But please, let's try to keep the messages on Ramon's messageboard about Ramon and his travels. We all have opinions, some quite aggressive, about the conflict, but this is not the place to express them. Please try to keep the messages relevant to Ramon's project. That is, after all, why it is here. Ramon, what do you think about this? Keep well Brian
Name: Clara City, Country: Iowa Sent: 4.26 AM - 10/9 2001 Men, philosophers of all ages have tried to find the secret of existence, the meaning of it all. Because if they could find the real meaning of life, then all this human effort, this wonderful potentiality of human beings, could then be moved in the correct direction and we would march forward with great success. So therefore, we tried these different ideas. But the question of the meaning of the whole world, of life, and of human beings and so on, has been answered very many times, by very many people. Unfortunately, all the answers are different; and the people with one answer look in horror at the actions and behavior of the people with another answer. Horror, because they see the terrible things that are done; the way man is being pushed into a blind alley by this rigid view of the meaning of the world. In fact, it is really perhaps by the fantastic size of the horror that it becomes clear how great are the potentialities of human beings,..." "The Pleasure of Finding Things Out" Richard Feynman Name: Richard Reekers City, Country: Nijmegen // Rotterdam The Netherlands Sent: 2.04 PM - 10/8 2001 7 oktober 2001, 6.30 pm (EST) -- So now it has begun. In the following days and months we are to learn how much the troubles will effect the eventual course of the 21st century. At these times little images encourage hope and confidence. Such as the CNN-pictures with "courtesy of Al Jazeera". Two logo's, not conflicting with eachother and neatly presented aside the horror. Guest and host informing us. This is not about religion. This is something between poor and rich. After the storm we've got to act. Not only rebuilding the damage on both sides, but working together for a better basement and structure of our a mutual home. Richard
"Judgement Day won't come until the desert is transformed into a sea of flowers" -- Mohammed Name: Stella City, Country: Christchurch New Zealand Sent: 12.35 PM - 10/8 2001 Ramon,
Hope you can join us here one day in New Zealand Name: var City, Country: Leeuwarden, Netherlands Sent: 11.25 AM - 10/8 2001 Hi Ramon! I was reading your comments about you having to remove 35 (!) adresses from you database on account of the terrorist attack in the US... I got 'kippevel' all over... I can see why it is difficult to cope with that... Hope that you'll get a few new invites by the time you get to going to the US; live goes on and all that... When are we going to see you on the chatbox again? Its been a bit quiet there recently. Groeten and the best of luck, var
City, Country: Durban, South Africa Sent: 6.29 AM - 10/8 2001 Hi Ramon
I am really glad that you enjoyed your camping in the game reserve. Hopefully you stopped to watch the other animals for as long as you stopped for the so-called big 5. When in a game reserve, one should realise that each plant, each animal, and indeed, each river, hill, and so on, all play a crucial roll in the environment. Each contributes something that is crucial to the ecosystem. Did you see the dung beetles in the elephant droppings? Did you see the lilac-breasted roller showing you how it got that name? I hope so. Well, look after yourself in Joburg. Travel well, and see as much as you can. Brian
With all respect and love to all the victims in NY and Washington, is this maybe something to think about? Is this maybe something why things are going so bad right now? Like to read your comments about this... Peace!
Hey Ramon! Hope you remember your mad Aussie host from France! :) Jurgen says hi, too. I'm so glad youre in South Africa! Have just scrolled through all the pics, and they're great. You seem to be having a wonderful experience, and I'm really happy for you. Take care. Name: Robert City, Country: Denmark Sent: 12.14 AM - 10/7 2001 Roberto
City, Country: dbk Tom Sent: 11.01 PM - 10/6 2001 Hi Ramon, I've just send this article to TV NZ. Hope something comes of it Name: Ramon Stoppelenburg City, Country: Johannesburg, South Africa Sent: 10.13 PM - 10/6 2001 The South African newspaper The Citizen has published about me on October 3rd on a full page. As they don't have a website (yet), somebody provided me the complete text by email. Thank you! You can read the whole story here. Name: Roberto City, Country: Italy Sent: 5.05 PM - 10/6 2001 I would like to respond to Roberts request for a page on this website for all victims and family of the recent attacks of the WTC. Probably you are now only thinking about the +5,000 victims of terrorism in the USA. I regret it that you don't look further. There are much more victims of terrorism on this planet!!!
Genny,
Thanks for the reference to those web sites. I suggest others in this board take a look see. Especially Erwan's. Lots of info. Erwan,
Name: Genny City, Country: Toronto, Canada Sent: 6.22 AM - 10/6 2001 In a follow up to Erwan's article, another website to visit is: www.rawa.org This was created by a women's group to document the human rights violations in Afghanistan. Given the conditions under which Afghan women live, it's incredible that this site exists at all. A picture's worth a thousand words so this is not for the faint of heart. PS Ramon, I love reading about your trip! I hope you get invited to stay with some black families. It would be interesting to get your perspective of how the majority of South Africans live. I am hoping to be living in a bigger place by the time you make it to Ontario. If so, I'll definitely invite you over! Name: Robert City, Country: Copenhagen, Denmark Sent: 2.19 AM - 10/6 2001 Hi all
Though some of us will criticize him for accepting an invitation from a big (corporation) guy. I don’t see anything wrong about that. We all have to bear in mind that not all big guys are bad. While some might suck you and me others have refresh us in a way or the other. Correct me if I’m wrong, most of the things that we now take for granted, including our dear mighty internet, might not be in its current stage without them. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a teacher (not a corporate executive) and I love my job 100%, but, please allow Ramon to be a little bit human. What’s really pushing me to write this message: I felt sad to read of some 35 friends who invited Ramon for a day but couldn’t see their dreams into reality due to this horrible incident that occurred in the United States on September 11. Thinking over it made me so much sad. Surely, these people were my friends or family we never knew. They were people we’d been reading same things with, enjoyed same things with, think over same things, share same feelings etc. In reality they were some friends or (let me stay for a day) family members who were going on with daily life like you and I and never made it to the next day. Yes, this is the world we live in. Oh, what a life. I’m hereby suggesting two things:
I think their wish/dreams that we may someday read about them on this site should be a reality and live after them. Their invitation to Ramon should be appreciated. 2. We should raise founds and build a monument , an internet cafe, or anything special , in the United States to uplift their names and soul. Okay, here goes my mind guys. Please write yours and let’s get to work. Anything is welcomed. Much love. Name: Niki City, Country: Liverpool Sent: 11.04 AM - 10/5 2001 Muhammed, looks to me like Ramon has hitch hiked only a handfull of times - read the reports, he's got it so easy............ Name: Suzanne and Paul City, Country: Isle of Man Sent: 7.52 PM - 10/4 2001 Remember us? You do - great!Paul's birthday next week we will get some raunchy photos of Manx ladies for you - used your free flight to SA then? only just manged to re connect our pc - the legend of Ramon lives on in the IOM people keep asking us about you xxx Name: Salome City, Country: Cape Town, SA Sent: 1.05 PM - 10/4 2001 Welkom in Afrika :-) I have been reading your reports since day 1 - and can not believe you are in SA already - Wow ! I live in a suburb outside Cape Town called Table View. I have posted my invite and hope to see you soon. Lekker bly :-) Name: Brian City, Country: Durban, South Africa Sent: 12.11 PM - 10/4 2001 Absolutely, I echo the sentiments of Muhammed. Ramon, keep up the great efforts, you really are making a good impression on those whose lives you pass. Name: Muhammed City, Country: Durban South Africa Sent: 9.25 AM - 10/4 2001 May I offer another pespective to the recently expressed views concerning Ramon's acceptance of the hospitality offered to him by certain commercial tourism enterprises. As an ex-hitcher I do know that life on the road in a strange country can be rough. With no home comforts, inclement weather, hours of waiting for transport, wavering sleep patterns can altogether take its toll on your health, energy and moods. As Ramon travels without a budget, he is normally even worse off, not even able to buy the little luxuries which I could afford and took for granted. Yet, despite the hurdles, Ramon ventures on, faithfully at work on his keyboard, cheerfully producing a graphic and entertaining travelogue of his experiences for our enjoyment. The pressures to carry a demeanour of politeness to ones hosts while writing about them will always be present. Not an easy task. Having considered this, I believe that it would be a pleasant change from the rigours of his sojourn for Ramon to be accorded the cosiness once in a while. He deserves to go on a splurge every now and again if only for his efforts in helping to promote communication and understanding between different cultures. Note his very charitable and mature comments regarding the recent tragedies in the U.S. Ramon, Ons verwelkom jou hier in Zuidafrika ! Enjoy the luxuries offered to you to get your batteries recharged for the challenging road ahead.
go on. I congratulate you. Name: Brian City, Country: Durban, South Africa Sent: 6.30 AM - 10/4 2001 Hi Ramon
I feel so incredibly proud reading your report from Joburg. I lived there for seven years, and, although I prefer both Cape Town and Durban, the places you mention are still significant to me in some way. That "concrete highway" is a major arterial, in fact, it is the so-called "Cape to Cairo" road. I commuted on it between home and work, and believe me, it gets bumper to bumper with traffic. It is always interesting to read your reports, but so much more so when the places you discuss are so familiar. I'll make every effort to read your reports every day while you are in SA. Each day I'm sure you will find something great about this confused country. Without realising it, you might even change the entire world's opinion on SA. Who are you to change the world? You, Ramon, are precisely the man we need. Go well Brian
City, Country: Sichuan,China Sent: 8.51 PM - 10/3 2001 dear Ramon,I am a chinese girl.I read the news about you in the newspaper,so I come here.I give my message to you,welcome to China,welcome to Sichuan,welcome to Nanchong!I am a college student,my English isn't very good,soory!But don't worry,i'll do my best to heip you! Name: journo Jim City, Country: Dublin, Ireland Sent: 1.11 PM - 10/3 2001 It seems my last message caused a bit of upset so please let me clarify. Firstly to Charmaine - I meant no slight on the people of Soweto whatsoever. I was simply aware that there are more sides to South Africa than can be seen from within a White gated community. I look forward to Ramon visiting the many other communities that exist in your large and eclectic country much more than I look forward to his staying in hotels. Ramon himself seems a little peeved at the point that I'm making. As I said, in his position I'd do exactly the same. Possibly the project has become the victim of its own success. As corporate tourism entities hear of the project they realise that by helping Ramon they can access his large audience of readers. Should the hosts who flew Ramon to South Africa be thanked? By Ramon, yes. But not necessarily by me or the many other followers of his odyssey. Like Brian, I propose moderation in these matters. Of course assistance is needed to cross oceans. Of course a stay in a hotel is a welcome pleasure. But the original plan of the project as I understand it will inevitably suffer if, as Brian puts it, Ramon starts making a habit of it. Name: meyroos City, Country: the Netherlands Sent: 10.28 AM - 10/3 2001 dear Ramon, Iam following your travels from the moment you started, and even if Iam a bit older than your average reader (I think) I think your reports make facinating reading. Hopefully your traveling will take you everywhere, and than we (at home) can enjoy your reports. Be carefull, good luck meyroos Name: Acadia City, Country: USA Sent: 10.13 AM - 10/3 2001 Ramon, I posted a message several days ago on an email list that you were on your way to SA. Many of the members are from South Africa so I hope they are able to invite you. Bret, Of course Munk has some good points in his post. Munk, your response seems to be trying to educate. Accurate information is vital to understanding, as you obviously know. Bad US foreign policy did not kill those thousands of innocent (read non-military, non-governmental) people, terrorists did. Dead they are and will remain, and their families mourn. As do I. Peace. My thoughts for Ramon are to travel well and stay safe in a beautiful country full of contradictions. I am told that a great thing to do is go all the way down the cape and visit where two great oceans collide. Acadia
Munk,
Great come back on Acadia, no offense Acadia, but Munk has some great points. Let's all learn from it shall we? Now back to the travels of Ramon...................... Name: Vincent Vercueil City, Country: Luzern, Switzerland Sent: 8.23 AM - 10/3 2001 Dear Ramon. Hi there! I am a South African living in Switzerland now for 3 years. I come from Cape Town originally and have been following your project since the beginning. I think it is fantastic that you have arrived in South Africa and wish you a wonderful time full of memories. South Africa is very beautiful and the people are fantastic, warm and friendy. Are you going to Cape Town too? I wish all the success in you adventure! Cheers, Vincent. Name: Brian City, Country: Durban, South Africa Sent: 6.17 AM - 10/3 2001 Hi Ramon
Apparently some people are upset with the managers and owners of hotels inviting you to stay in their hotels. Well, it really is up to them if they want to invite you. Your project is inherently about sponsorship and advertising, eg your phone, your camera, certain of your air tickets, etc. The occasional hotel can't be so bad. Just don't make a habit of it :-) In any case, when you are in these hotels, I'm sure you'll spend time with the people, not just lock yourself away in the room. So, everyone benefits. If nothing else, it gives you a bit more time to explore the country you're in, and meet a few more people. You did it in some European countries already, and it worked out well. Go ahead, Ramon, stay where-ever you can. Just be sure to talk to the people, and learn something about life in these places you visit. And be careful. I'm looking forward to seeing you here in Durban. Oh, and for the people reading this, I am not a hotel operator. I am an ordinary citizen, renting a cottage in someone elses garden. I don't even own the place, but it is a small house, and it works for me. Go well, Ramon Regards Brian
City, Country: Istanbul/TURKEY Sent: 10.08 PM - 10/2 2001 Hi! First of all I have to say that it is a great idea and great chance for you to visit all over the world.I hope you can achieve it.I left my address and my phone number and all the other stuff.Well I do not know anything about you but trust you anyway.I hope you can visit my country it doesn't matter in my house or someone else's.Good luck and have fun Name: Ivannia City, Country: Guanacaste, Costa Rica Sent: 10.08 PM - 10/2 2001 Hi!
Ramon, I always ask me in which place you are now, and when I visit your page I say WOW! Please, take care of yourself!!! Iva Name: Cecilia Bohemia City, Country: Formosa, Argentina Sent: 6.56 PM - 10/2 2001 I'm very impressioned about Raymond travel around the world. I've publish an article about him in my web: BOHEMIOSLAND (http://communities.latam.msn.com/Bohemiosland) This is a site to bohemians travellers like him, but to people from latin america. Link it!! My biggest dream is to do a travel like Raymond's. Sory for my poor english bye Name: Charmaine City, Country: JHB, South Africa Sent: 12.44 PM - 10/2 2001 Jim - I'm a white South African living in Johannesburg and I've been to Soweto (and other townships) many many times. It's an adventure... bit of a culture shock for some but one of the few places that I've been where I've been treated like an absolute honoured guest. The African cultures are rich and their hospitality and manners IMPECABLE. Name: Charmaine City, Country: Johannesburg, South Africa Sent: 12.35 PM - 10/2 2001 Looking forward to hearing you tonight!! Name: mattias City, Country: kŠrra sweden Sent: 12.19 PM - 10/2 2001 sorry!!! hope u finded another place to stay at.. take care //mattias from sweden (me and my mom) Name: Erwan Yüklə 1,59 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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