CB: ah ah .
SMALL LAKE2: the first thing we used to say was that woman could throw at him- . SMALL LAKE2: the first thing we used to say was that woman could throw at him- .CB: ah ah.SMALL LAKE2: so, I saw that these were exaggerations, true stories honestly, serious episodes-.CB: they interpret it as harassment.SMALL LAKE2: yes yes but it was considered sexual harassment also that-, he was reported, it was almost a tragedy .CB: and you were saying yesterday that someone was suspended from his post for a year.SMALL LAKE2: yes yes.CB: for having made a joke about I don’t remember the subject.SMALL LAKE2: yes yes in America they are absolutely- if you go to [unclear] [unclear] in America there are also special bureaus where women can go you know.CB: but instead this never happened to you?SMALL LAKE2: No .CB: not even jokes.SMALL LAKE2: no in fact it’s a little bit worrying [laughs].P108 CC: 615, P3 NR:621
We also found informants who think that women have to be careful in drawing the line to avoid ‘potentially dangerous’ situations Stine also found similar accounts in her interviews.
Sexual harassment: harrassed women as guilty victims MEDIUM LAKE 4: Well, I would be a bit surprised, even if I heard of some episodes, I know that some unlucky girls had bad experiences. There was a professor, even a CERN Nobel Prize winner and I remember that a secretary told another one, a younger secretary who had just began working there and who had been a bit vexed by him, “Pay attention to him, there must always be a piece of furniture between you and him”.GC: [Laughs].MEDIUM LAKE 4: So there are some episodes, I personally have not haaad problems
…according to me_ apart from that there is also a problem of _ how can I say it? A professor takes more liberty with a secretary than with a colleague, so, we are at the same level and it also depends on the way you behave, I have always been a very reserved person, very few_ I am not of loose morals, so, or there is a real maniac that would sleep with anyone or I make people feel a bit uneasy so I have never_ but there is someone, also physicists are made of flesh and blood so it can happen. …according to me_ apart from that there is also a problem of _ how can I say it? A professor takes more liberty with a secretary than with a colleague, so, we are at the same level and it also depends on the way you behave, I have always been a very reserved person, very few_ I am not of loose morals, so, or there is a real maniac that would sleep with anyone or I make people feel a bit uneasy so I have never_ but there is someone, also physicists are made of flesh and blood so it can happen.
Sexual harassment: women as guilty victims GC: I see, yes, yes, did it ever happen to you too, I’m not just talking harassment, but I’m also thinking of situations of uneasiness? BIGLAKE4: No, to be honest, no, no, it didn’t happen but I think that that also depends on the way you behave with a person who could, potentially, be your molester. You see what I mean? I, that never happened to me because I think, when I’m here, with my colleagues, I always behave in a professional way
Stereotypes and implicit discrimination ? Some of our informants told us that it is hard to be a woman and a physicist, because you are often requested to demonstrate that you are good enough like your male colleaugues.
Stereotypes and implicit discrimination ? CB: How do you think your career would have changed if you hadn’t been a woman? ICEBERG 17: Mmh, I think I have never suffered gender discrimination up to now. Perhaps, at the beginning, when I interface myself with people I find some difficulties, that is I must demonstrate that I am a person who works. When I met someone and had to enter a new group I saw some scepticism on their side. I don’t know if it would have been different if I had been a man, but in general no, I’ve never suffered any discrimination. P 119 CC: 476
Stereotype and identity of physicist That kind of implicit discrimination is somehow related to the stereotype of the male physicist. Indeed, women and men do not relate themselves to the stereotype of the physicist in the same way
Stereotype: women’s opinion BIGLAKE3: in society, well, a physicist is someone who has get lost in his own thoughts _ he is someone [she snorts] who does not care about his clothes, he is lost in his thoughts, eh, he lives in his own world, in another world % %, to communicate with the others, eh, he talks about unintelligible things _ and he does unintelligible things and he behaves in an unintelligible way, he works during the night, he always travels, he prefers travelling than staying with his family _ eh, he wakes up to solve a problem, he is extravagant, eccentric.
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